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Discussion in 'Buying Tips and Advice' started by umrdad, Dec 16, 2005.

  1. umrdad macrumors member

    Dec 13, 2005
    My son just sent me the necessary steps to connect to his university's wireless network . . .looked pretty complicated till I looked at the last 3 lines (why anyone would buy windows system is beyond me)

    802.11b/g INSTRUCTIONS

    * You need to obtain a wireless Ethernet card that is 802.11b/g and WiFi
    compatible (most WiFi cards will have WiFi physically printed on the card).
    Wireless Ethernet cards from the following vendors have been tested and are
    known to work on our wireless network:

    * Cisco Aironet
    * 3Com
    * Orinoco (Silver and Gold versions both work)
    * Zoom
    * Xircom
    * US Robotics
    * Linksys
    * Apple Airport

    * You must register the card on the UMR network using the online registration
    for Residential Housing and Wireless connections. This form can be found off the
    Helpdesk page <> . You can also access this page
    directly <>
    . Without registration, your card will NOT work on our wireless network.

    * Configure your networking properties on the card to use DHCP to obtain an IP
    address. (Each card is configured slightly differently.)

    * You will need to bring up the client encryption tool to install the proper
    utilities for your card (the specifics of these vary from card to card) and
    input the following information:

    * Configure the system to use DHCP for WINS resolution
    * Client name: the name of your machine (sent to you with your registration)
    * SSID: UMR_Campus (this is Case Sensitive)
    * Access type: set this to infrastructure
    * Access Point Authentication: Open Authentication
    * WEP: Enable this (Wire Equivilancy Privacy)

    * Set the 40 Bit Crypto key
    You will need this in order to be able to access the UMR wireless network. Note
    that on Macintosh computers you will need to put a "$" in front of the key.

    802.1x configuration for Mac OS X

    1. Select the wireless configuration tool on the top bar. Click Other.

    2. Enter "UMR" for the Network Name, select "802.1X WEP". Enter YOUR login
    credentials for User Name and Password. Leave 802.1X Configuration as
    3. If you receive the following window, click Continue.

    4. You're done! Start enjoying wireless networking with the 802.1x security
  2. SummerBreeze macrumors 6502a


    Sep 11, 2005
    Chicago, IL
    Ha, that's great! If I had to do all that just to get on a wireless network, well, I'd be pretty annoyed. I love how Macs just work.
  3. dmw007 macrumors G4


    May 26, 2005
    Working for MI-6
    Ha, thats great umrdad! Thanks for the laugh! :D

    That is pretty much how it is to connect to the wireless network where I go to college. Thank goodness I use a Mac! :)
  4. 1hot5.0 macrumors newbie

    Nov 10, 2005
    That's funny! :D

    I'm so glad I switched to a Mac. :cool:
  5. NYmacAttack macrumors 6502


    Dec 8, 2005
  6. sushi Moderator emeritus


    Jul 19, 2002
    Because it is a challenge to use! :D

    Thanks for sharing.

    Another area that the Mac is so simple compared to Windows is sharing a Wireless connection with a LAN network. It takes about 5 seconds on the Mac. With Winders, it could take a lifetime depending on how it goes...

    Note, sharing the other way is easy with Winders, LAN to wireless. Same with the Mac. But going from wireless to LAN is the tricky one. With the Mac it is easy either way.

  7. mad jew Moderator emeritus

    mad jew

    Apr 3, 2004
    Adelaide, Australia
    I find AirPort gives a better connection too. I get significantly less dropouts and a stronger throughput with my Macs compared with my PC.
  8. SummerBreeze macrumors 6502a


    Sep 11, 2005
    Chicago, IL
    Ah, so true. I attempted to share wireless to LAN on my old PC tower and the thing didn't work at all. Took me hours to try to figure it out and I finally gave up and decided it wasn't worth it. Now, with my PowerBook, it's so much easier. I was at the library the other day with my friend who doens't have a wireless card in her ibook. In two seconds I broke out an ethernet cord and had it all up and running for her, worked like a charm. I love Macs.
  9. Mitthrawnuruodo Moderator emeritus


    Mar 10, 2004
    Bergen, Norway
    Aah... another one of those 3 pages of Windows instructions vs 3 lines for the Mac... priceless... :D

    And I've never understood why people want to infilict themselves with the pain of getiing and having a PC, either. Never understood it...
  10. katie ta achoo macrumors G3

    May 2, 2005
    Ohh, I hear that.. I'm installing linux on a friend's PC-formatted iPod, so I'm having to do it on the windows machine.

    So much headache.
    *smashes iPod and windows machine*


    :eek: sorry about my angry tangent..
  11. bursty macrumors 6502a


    Jan 31, 2004
    Is that University of Missouri-Rolla? I just transferred from there this year. Good school. Funny instructions though! :)
  12. Kobushi macrumors 6502a


    Jun 7, 2005
    Right behind you.
    You know, it's for reasons like this (and obviously my own experiences), that I just can't understand the number of people I've met that somehow have the notion that Macs are supposed to be harder to learn to use. Hmmm. Every time I hear it I just laugh and tell the person they've got bass ackwards.
  13. dmw007 macrumors G4


    May 26, 2005
    Working for MI-6
    Whoa, hold on there katie- smash not the iPod, just the windoze machine! :) ;)
  14. dmw007 macrumors G4


    May 26, 2005
    Working for MI-6
    True, I can't help but chuckle when I hear people's misconceptions about Macs. :rolleyes: :)

    One time I was talking to someone about Macs and the person said they would use one if it were not for the fact that you can not run M$ Word on a Mac. :rolleyes: :D I of course enlightened the individual, but he has yet to switch.
  15. CompUser Guest

    At my sister's school (Tufts) they are sensible and they give you a CD that automatically programs in your network settings.
  16. joepunk macrumors 68030


    Aug 5, 2004
    a profane existence
    Thanks for the laugh. :)

    One of my roommates used to use a Mac but then when OSX came around it was too compicated for him to understand and so he switched. Heck, he had guts to even ask me if I needed help connecting to the University ethernet system. :rolleyes:
  17. umrdad thread starter macrumors member

    Dec 13, 2005

    yep son's at Univ. MO Rolla got in at 16 . . . .long story. . . but now it's all better . . . . trying to get this pismo upgraded to the level he won't need another one before graduation getting closer all the time the original G3 400 runs osx 10.4 perfectly have dvd, floppy, firewire ext hdd, firewire cd burner always looking for extra goodies like an expansion bay hdd (that would be way cool) anyways glad to provide a laugh
  18. Spock macrumors 68000


    Jan 6, 2002
    Thats funny,I wonder if CMSU-Warensburg has the same instructions? I have never tried to connect thats great I love my Mac
  19. generik macrumors 601


    Aug 5, 2005
    To be fair the instructions are just being anal?

    Configure DHCP? Each card configured differently? Only cards from those vendors are tested to work?

    What is the sysadmin.. some moron?

    Unless the user has explicitly configured for a static IP, DHCP is obviously the default? Similarly I can use my el cheapo Xinghua wifi card and as long as the router and card are standards compliant I fail to see how it shouldn't work?

    And what's with the nonsense about different cards being configured differently, just use Windows' configuration tool instead of the one that came with the card!
  20. Seasought macrumors 65816


    Nov 3, 2005
    Why it's because so many tech support jobs depend upon it. :D
  21. generik macrumors 601


    Aug 5, 2005
    Nah, because it is cheap. Same deal with VHS vs Beta, the cheap standard won instead of the good one.
  22. eXan macrumors 601


    Jan 10, 2005
    I use ethernet/wireless connection at home :D

    eMac---ethernet---AirPort Base Sattion---wireless---iMac. iMac is connecting to the internet via AirPort's built-in modem, while eMac has ISDN plugged in USB port. :)
  23. adk macrumors 68000


    Nov 11, 2005
    Stuck in the middle with you

    Haha I love doing that too. I feel like God. If anybody pisses me off, BAM there goes their internet connection.
  24. Mikael macrumors regular

    Aug 4, 2005
    Gothenburg, Sweden
    Don't want to piss on your parade here, but it isn't harder to connect to a WLAN with a Windows machine. As said, those instructions assume that someone has tampered with the default settings on the Windows machine. They also seem to assume that noone has tampered with the defaults for the Mac.

    I'm going to tell you how hard it was for me to logon to my university's wireless network the first time, using a WindowsXP machine:

    - Wait for computer to find network (a few seconds)
    - Click the "Connect" button
    - Open web browser and fill in username and password (logon screen appears automatically)

    That's all. This procedure is of course only necessary the first time. Only the last step is now required each time you log in.

    Let me just tell you, it doesn't really get any simpler than this and it sure wasn't neither simpler nor harder on my friends Ibook. You people really need to learn the basics about Windows before bashing it. I realise Macs are great and all, but if you're going to bash the "opposite side" you should atleast find relevant things to pick on..
  25. cblackburn macrumors regular

    Jul 5, 2005
    London, UK
    The difference is that *theoretically* this is how easy it is to get a windows system to work with wireless. However the sysadmin obviously knows that in 90%+ cases windows finds some way to be an arse about it and not do what it's supposed to.

    For example in our uni network the place is crammed with Access Points all just in reach of each other. My mac always connects to the strongest one and gives me reliable access. My friends PC connects to the strong one and lets him log in over VPN, then about 30 seconds later it goes "oh wow, a new access point. I'll ignore the fact it has almost no signal and connect to it". Then the connection says "extremely low signal" and dumps the connection, kicking you off the VPN. Then about 3 seconds later it connects to the strong access point again and so the whole cycle starts again.


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