people, i don't wanna be the self-appointed gaurdian of politeness but... i think it's time to take another deep breath. the tone of the posts is going way downhill again. here we finally get desertrat back, and what does he walk into but a mud-slinging fest b/t some regulars and our new poster from the right, slyhunter. all i'm asking for is an end to the personal insults. there are several positive benefits that could accrue from this policy. the first being to reduce insults. They add nothing to a thread and generally make it an unpleasant read. insults also stifle debate. how many potential conservative posters may get turned off by the bad-tempered name calling and not bother to post? the easiest way to deal with posts you don't agree with is to debunk them. if they are off-topic, ignore them. if they are insulting, keeping your own post polite will simply point out how poor the opposing side is arguing. this isn't grade-school, we can do without all the drama. i just want to keep the debate spirited and the opinions diverse. this is accomplished a lot better by attacking the argument, not the arguer.