It's official: Macbooks have bad thermal paste applied

Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by odedia, May 19, 2006.

  1. odedia macrumors 6502a

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    After some people posted pictures of a disassembeled Macbook with too much thermal paste, here's a link to pictures from the official Apple service manual, STILL WITH TOO MUCH THERMAL PASTE APPLIED:

    http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.php?t=295925

    And now for the fun part: Check out the review below. The reviewer tried to heat things up on his macbook to check tempartures. THE COMPUTER FROZE WITH KERNEL PANIC. He could not reboot the computer UNTIL HE PLACED THE MACBOOK FOR 5 MINUTES ABOVE AN AIR CONDITIONER!

    http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2946&review=Apple+MacBook

    I just can't believe this. Apple are unbelivable. Are they really that dumb? There's no other way to say it, their engineers are pretty much a bunch of idiots. Don't give me that "It's all made in China" part, the Macbook is made by Asustek in Korea, and Asustek make PERFECT LAPTOPS, I know this first hand! But when Apple demands that their laptops will contain that much thermal paste, the supplier has no choice but to do as he's told. And the most annoying part is that Apple is NOT LISTENING TO THEIR CUSTOMERS. JUST HAVE A LOOK AT YOUR OFFICIAL FORUMS AND SEE FOR YOURSELFS HOW ANGRY 85% OF YOUR CUSTOMERS ARE!

    Arrrgghhh. Really needed to blow of all this steam.


    BTW, on a different note, the Macbook is faster than the Macbook Pro, even in some graphics intensive tasks. My guess, this is because they are FREAKING UNDERCLOCKING THEIR ATI X1600 GPU BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW THAT THE COMPUTER IS SO HOT BECAUSE OF THE STUPID THERMAL PASTE!!! Benchmarking proof:

    http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/macbook.ars/5

    Oded S.
     
  2. mkaake macrumors 65816

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    you know, rants like this don't bother me too much.



    as long as the person making the rant actually has the computer.

    well, I'll get flamed for saying that, but that's my take on it. There are people who go digging around the web to find problems with other people's computers, and then complain about it.
     
  3. iGary Guest

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    I'm so tired of hearing about this.


    But I can understand your frustration.
     
  4. odedia thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Well, after taking the heat with the macbook pro i'm never ever gonna by an apple computer before researching on the web. Their new computers are not good, period. I am sorry you feel that way but there's a limit to how much i am willing to go just because I like a company. They should address the problems. Instead, they completly ignore it!
     
  5. mkaake macrumors 65816

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    Oh, I don't disagree with that at all. I've got a friend who's got a 1.83 macbook pro, which got so hot the aluminum covering the battery peeled off. I've ripped on apple for that many a time. They are not perfect, they ship flaws, and they've got some qc issues they need to resolve.

    My point was about ranting online about a machine you don't own. *shrugs shoulders*
     
  6. iCaffeine macrumors member

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    when will this ever end? : )
     
  7. x86isslow macrumors 6502a

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    When the G5 Powerbooks get here.
     
  8. iGary Guest

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    *falls down laughing* :D
     
  9. stefan15 macrumors regular

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    Oh my GOD this is just SCARY.. honestly.. horrifying...

    (right out of the Apple service manual)
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    Pic 2
     
  10. X5-452 macrumors 6502

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    Forget Supermodel sandwiches, that's a CPU sandwich.
     
  11. bodeh6 macrumors 6502a

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    That is a lot of thermal paste:eek:
     
  12. atari1356 macrumors 68000

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    The reason the MacBook is faster in some tests there is because it's 2GHz, and the MacBook Pro they tested is the 1.83GHz model.
     
  13. thejadedmonkey macrumors 604

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    This is the sort of thing I didn't want to hear about before buying my new MacBook... *sigh* at least I know about it now...

    Anyone have an old PPC notebook they want to opperate on and see how much thermal grease is used on those?
     
  14. MIDI_EVIL macrumors 65816

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    Apart from replacing it yourself, has anyone heard if Apple are taking these back under Applecare and sorting it out?

    Rich.
     
  15. MIDI_EVIL macrumors 65816

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    I'd be willing to bet the PowerBook G4 has crap thermal paste application too!

    Mine is perfect, not a glitch since day one, but it's bloody hot.

    I know aluminium dissipates heat well, but wow.

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  16. aristobrat macrumors G4

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    Wonder if the MacBook Service Manual (above) isn't in sync with what's coming off the production line?

    The amount of goo on the MacBook below (left) looks quite a bit less (although not perfect) than the amount of goo on the Mac Book Pro below (right), and nothing like you'd expect it to look after seeing the Service Manual picture above.

    Meaning maybe Apple made last minute changes to the MacBook production line and hasn't updated the service manual yet.
     

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  17. Sharewaredemon macrumors 68000

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    mmmmm Thermal Sammich™
     
  18. aristobrat macrumors G4

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    That's wise advice for any new device that costs over $20, no? Research first, buy later. :eek:
     
  19. MIDI_EVIL macrumors 65816

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    That's actually a very good point. The manual was probably finished before Apple were flamed for the incorrect application, so they stepped up and ignored the manual.

    Any more photos of the MacBooks' guts?

    Rich.
     
  20. kainjow Moderator emeritus

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    Is it the MacBooks or MacBook Pros, or both?

    Wouldn't replacing it yourself void the warranty? :(
     
  21. MIDI_EVIL macrumors 65816

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    Both apparently.

    But it seems like the MacBooks may have been applied a lot more sparingly than the Pros.

    I would not bother doing it yourself.

    Just get on the blower to Apple.

    Rich.
     
  22. kainjow Moderator emeritus

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    I was watching a DVD the other night on my MB and it was insanely hot. I put it on my lap and took it off right away because of the heat.

    No children for me in the future ;) :p
     
  23. LastZion macrumors 6502a

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    I would like to know this too.
    Since the firmware update its been cooler, but that firmware update sure didn't go inside and remove excess paste...

    I would like to have an ice cold MBP please. We still calling on the 20th?
     
  24. odedia thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    The manuals ARE in sync. Here's a photo a user on these forums took:

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    It's from this thread: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=201987

    So yes, that's exactly how they put the thermal paste and that's exactly why the computers are so amazingly hot.

    By the way, I recommemnd taking the service manual's pictures off this forum. The reason I only linked to a different website in the first place is because Apple are sending lawsuit threats to every website which is hosting the "properitory" material. What this actually means is that they don't want you to know how much they messed up.

    Oded S.
     
  25. X5-452 macrumors 6502

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    As far as I know the 20th is still going ahead as planned.

    Does anyone know if fixing the thermal paste yourself voids the warrenty?
     

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