James Cameron To Announce Finding The Tomb of Jesus Christ

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  1. Hummer macrumors 65816

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    http://time-blog.com/middle_east/

    I can see this not turning out well. Even if it is true, no one would want to believe it.
     
  2. PlaceofDis macrumors Core

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    this has all been long speculated.

    good luck finding the tomb though. :rolleyes:
     
  3. LethalWolfe macrumors G3

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    I don't understand what you mean. According to the link the point of the doc is that they did find the tomb containing Jesus' body.


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  4. someguy macrumors 68020

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    Impossible. Jesus' body cannot be found, because that would go against the Christian faith.. which we all know is the one true religion. :rolleyes:

    I look forward to the presentation of the discovery.
     
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    Jerry Falwell and his ilk will denounce it as heresy, the hard-line atheists will embrace it as further proof that Christianity is a religious conspiracy, and most people will watch American Idol.
     
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    So...Cameron's gonna compare the DNA evidence he found to Jesus' DNA, and if they're a match.... :rolleyes:

    This has "Al Capone's Vault" written all over it.
     
  8. CanadaRAM macrumors G5

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    LOL. Dinosaurs, man... remember them?

    This (finding the Joseph family tomb with evidence that Jesus lived to old age and had children) is the plotline of a novel I read a few months ago... I'll see if I can dig up the title.
     
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    erm...... pardon my ignorance... but.... jesus who?
     
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    So how is he planning to prove that this is not just the tomb of some other random guy who was named Jesus, since I think that it was a fairly common name back then.
     
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    It reads like Da Vinci Code (the novel version). The quest for Holy Grail goes on.....
     
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    was it Another Roadside Attraction?
     
  13. erickkoch macrumors 6502a

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    He says he's going to use DNA to prove that the bodies found belong to Jesus family. How is he going to get a DNA sample from God?

    I think this whole thing is silly. The names on the coffins were very common in their day. It would be like finding a grave site in Mexico that said "Jesus" on it and claiming it's Christs burial place. :rolleyes:
     
  14. PlaceofDis macrumors Core

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    that is... if you believe that Jesus is/was "God"
    but there are purported blood samples around in the Catholic church. the shroud for one.
     
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    Yes, you're right, if the DNA from Jesus is proven to come from both Mary and Joseph, then he probably was not the Son of God, but I doubt there is any way to prove that the coffins of Jesus, Mary, and Joseph are the ones from the Bible.

    Also, I think the Shroud was found not to be authentic, carbon dating showed it dated from the medieval period.
     
  16. PlaceofDis macrumors Core

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    yes no proof as to who the tomb really belonged too. which is why i stated what i did in my first post...

    the Shroud. well its interesting. different tests have resulted in different results. its on-going imo.
     
  17. LethalWolfe macrumors G3

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    They typed the blood on the Shroud of Turin and the Sudarium of Oviedo which, according to the church, are stained w/the blood of Christ.


    That'd be pretty ironic if they could match the DNA of the bones to the blood on the shroud.


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    He'll pray for God to appear and give him one.:rolleyes:
     
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    The only problem to their elaborate hoax is that the original Jewish professor who worked on the site, Amos Kloner, has already come forward to expose the claims as sheer nonsense.

    Bar-Ilan University Prof. Amos Kloner, the Jerusalem District archeologist who officially oversaw the work at the tomb-cave in 1980 and has published detailed findings on its contents, on Saturday night dismissed the claims. "It makes a great story for a TV film," he told The Jerusalem Post. "But it's impossible. It's nonsense."

    "There is no likelihood that Jesus and his relatives had a family tomb," Kloner said. "They were a Galilee family with no ties in Jerusalem. The Talpiot tomb belonged to a middle-class family from the 1st century CE."
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    "It's a beautiful story but without any proof whatsoever," Professor Amos Kloner, who had published the findings of his research in the Israeli periodical Atigot in 1996, told DPA Friday.

    "The names that are found on the tombs are names that are similar to the names of the family of Jesus," he conceded.

    "But those were the most common names found among Jews in the first centuries BCE and CE," he added.
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    Apparently, Cameron & Jacobovici have also, as with any elaborate hoax, some "evidence" by "world-renowned archeologists, statisticians and DNA specialists." I can hardly see how a DNA test would help. As with the "world-renowned archeologists," I would see why a second-hand archeologist would compromise his scholarship to make a buck.


    http://www.playfuls.com/news_0005573_Cameron_is_Latest_Player_in_the_Jesuss_Body_Hoax.html
     
  20. LethalWolfe macrumors G3

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    It's odd that neither Cameron's nor Jacobovici's respective IMDB pages have this doc listed on them.


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    Aren't all Christians going to immediately deem these findings a hoax, ignoring even the most irrefutable proof (assuming there is any)?
     
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    As far as I remember there are plenty of people who already believe this.
     
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    I think the Shroud is a hoax from Leonardo da Vinci. If you look at the the face on the shroud and look at paintings of Leonardo they are a near perfect match. Plus the carbon dating just doesnt add up to being old enough. It would be pretty interesting if they can dna test the parents to Jesus. If they could confirm the parents to his siblings and the parents to him then that would unravel the tale in the bible. If they cant then nothing changes but if they do it would do for Christianity what Dinosaurs and Asteroid impacts have done to the 5,000 yr old Earth Fairy Tale.
     
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    while interesting, logic doesn't work against faith. There are fossil that are millions of years old, yet people still believe the Unvierse came together 6-10 thousand years ago
     
  25. xsedrinam macrumors 601

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    Woudn't it be more interesting if he and crew were to broaden the scope of their search for tombs and historical records, and look at where/how/when/why the first string, starting lineup of 11 (disciples of Christ) were martyred for their faith vs. the "die for a lie" line of those who are skeptics?

    That those initial followers were either part of a hoax AND were martyred for their convictions, or were deceived in to believing a lie, yet were martyred for their faith, presents several more layers of challenges, imo. That and/or Dagoods issues with the accounts of Eusebius and Fox's Book of Martyrs?
     

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