Java for OS X 2012006 1.0 In Software Update

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  1. macrumors 6502

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    I installed this a few minutes ago and found that Java Preferences was no longer in my Utilities Folder. Anyone else have this problem?
     
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    Can you make this a bit clearer for me, I don't understand. why they would do this. What will happen if one wants to install Java 7 update 7?
     
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    Go to java.com, click on "Downloads" on the red Java bar, then click on "All Java downloads" at the left. Java 7 is only available for OS X 10.7.3, or above.
     
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    Apple has already stated that it will stop supporting Java directly for Mac OS and 1.6.x will be the last version supported by Apple. All future Java updates and releases, 1.7.x, will require us users to download it from Oracle directly. www.java.com
     
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    Hi

    Unfortunately I need Java for an app.

    For security reason, every time I had to use that app I activated Java in "Java Preferences" and deactivated it again after usage.

    After this update the Java Preferences are gone and it appears that I can't stop running Java system wide. (As now the mentioned app starts without the need of activating Java first).

    Just to be sure: I'm on the safe side if I have deactivated the Java Plugin in all my browsers?

    Thanks for an answer.
     
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    Before, it was up to Apple to push latest Java updates. Therefore, important security fixes was often delayed on OSX, because Apple had to push them.

    Now, they've stated that you should download directly from the Java website, so you're always 100% up to date.
     
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    Has it removed java from my computer? If I type java -version in terminal, i get the following.

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    java version "1.6.0_37"
    Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_37-b06-434-11M3909)
    Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.12-b01-434, mixed mode)
    What does this mean ?
     
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    You do not need to disable the Java Virtual Machine... as it is only used for running local Java apps and it not a security concern.

    The security issue is with the Java web plugin. This Apple update diabled the Apple provided Java 6 web plugin leaving the Java 7 web plugin alone (if you had it). Just turn off Java in the browser prefs and you are safe.

    No... this update only removed the Java web plugin, not the Java virtual machine you are seeing with the command.
     
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    Any idea on how to get the web plugin to point back to the 1.6 version as I'm finding a lot of apps I use (primarily Cisco UCS console and HP ILO) are not working with version 1.7.
     
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    I have tried it myself, but this looks like it would work by creating a symlink back to the old version.
     
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    Ok, thanks a lot!
     
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    That didn't help. Applets are still stating to download the JRE. Is there any way to modify what the Java Web Start app uses? I noticed that a couple of my jnlp shortcuts open with "Java Web Start". When I'm trying to point it to 1.6 it opens and prompts to download a JRE, but when 1.7 is loaded it launches fine but actual applet then complains about the version of the JRE.
     
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    Will the Java virtual machine be updated as well anytime soon?
     
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    When turning off Java for Safari, you don't get that annoying "refresh" problem when two finger swiping back and forth between pages. Is there any way to prevent this annoyance while keeping Java on? Or is this an annoyance that can be addressed by tweaking Java?
     
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    It's already been updated, but as others have said, you have to install it yourself. Apple no longer maintains Java for Mac OS X.
     
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    So we now have the plugin for version 7 and the virtual machine for 1.6.0_37 ?
     
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    This update from Apple removes the 1.6 web plugin while leaving the 1.6 virtual machine. If you install Java from Oracle you will get the 1.7 plugin and the 1.7 virtual machine. This will still leave the 1.6 virtual machine in place also.
     
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    Should I be installing the Java 7 up9 SDK then? It seems many are only installing the JRE.
     
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    Unless you are developing Java apps or need the Java troubleshooting tools it provides, there is no need for you to install it.
     
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  23. Graig, Oct 19, 2012
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    From the java.com download page: "installing Java 7 will disable the ability to use Apple Java 6 on your system." I read it to mean all of Java 6, not just the plugin.
     
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    Yeah, I'm getting screwed up as well. Now that I have installed Update 9, one of the sites I use requires 32 bit Java, but now I can't figure out how to switch it from 64 bit. Does V7U9 only run in 64 bit??
     

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