JonBenet Ramsey Suspect Arrested...

[freeny]

He also had his pants pulled half way up his chest, too.

I am going to get flamed for this, but he also seems very gay.

Gay and a closet case at that. His repressed sexuality is being played out right now on tv.

 

[bitfactory]

Maybe he is this user from the AOL search fiasco (from http://m.news.com/AOLs+disturbing+glimpse+into+users+lives/2163-1030_3-6103098.html):

Cool link. I knew about this, but didn't see some of the specific searches. I think it's funny the way people type out questions into search engines. Like this one in the story: "my husband needs free help with his anger problem in joliet il"

 

[mac-er]

Cool link. I knew about this, but didn't see some of the specific searches. I think it's funny the way people type out questions into search engines. Like this one in the story: "my husband needs free help with his anger problem in joliet il"

Or "i have an interview at comcast and i need help" (same user)

 

[Tanglewood]

i would like to believe you. do you have some evidence to back that up?

I haven't been following the news about this but the question about extradition and rendition got me interested. This is what I found:

Office of International Affairs in the Criminal Division, which serves as the U. S. Central Authority for extradition and mutual legal assistance, and works with the Department of State in the negotiation of international law enforcement treaties.

(Source)

Office of International Affairs: Criminal Division


United States Department of State: Responsiblities and Duties

Coordinating and providing support for international activities of other U.S. agencies (local, state, or federal government), official visits overseas and at home, and other diplomatic efforts.

(source)


From the Department of Homeland Security (objectives)

Expand existing extradition authorities. The war on terrorism is and must be a global effort. Our country must continue to work cooperatively with nations around the world. To that end, the Departments of State and Justice should work with Congress to amend current extradition laws in two respects. First, new legislation should be adopted that would authorize extradition for additional crimes where the United States already has an extradition treaty, but where the treaty applies only to a limited set of crimes. Second, Congress should grant authority to extraditeindividuals from the United States for serious crimes in the absence of an extradition treaty, on a case-by-case basis with the approval of the Attorney General and the Secretary of State.

(source)

So extradition is a Justice and State Department issue, not a DHS issue.

 

[zimv20]

So extradition is a Justice and State Department issue, not a DHS issue.

...unless it's a terrorism issue, right. which brings me to my original question: why is the DoHS issuing the statement?

thanks for the research. i'm glad someone else thought it was odd.

 

[mac-er]

...unless it's a terrorism issue, right. which brings me to my original question: why is the DoHS issuing the statement?

thanks for the research. i'm glad someone else thought it was odd.

Conspiracy theorists.

DoHS doesn't just deal with terrorism. The Secret Service is part of the DoHS, and they deal with counterfeiting and executive protection.

 

[Tanglewood]

...unless it's a terrorism issue, right. which brings me to my original question: why is the DoHS issuing the statement?

thanks for the research. i'm glad someone else thought it was odd.

Okay back to the drawing board...This is what I found this time around.

Ann Hurst who made the statement on behalf of DoHS is apart Immigration and Customs Enforcement under DoHS.

Under FAQ on their website:

What does ICE investigate?

ICE investigates a wide range of national security, financial and smuggling violations including drug smuggling, human trafficking, illegal arms exports, financial crimes, commercial fraud, human smuggling, document fraud, money laundering, child pornography/exploitation and immigration fraud.

(source)

With that being said ICE does work overseas as well as at home.

Where is ICE located?

ICE is headquartered in Washington, D.C., with additional offices across the United States. ICE also has offices around the globe that work closely with foreign governments to target both human smuggling and trafficking organizations.

(source)

and

ICE is charged with the enforcement of over 400 federal statutes within the United States and maintains attaches at major U.S. embassies overseas.

(source)

So I think DoHS and ICE gets the glory of finding and getting the guy while the State and Justice department get to do the paperwork to get him extradited.

As for "Terrorist" I'm not quite sure.

 

[Tanglewood]

DoHS doesn't just deal with terrorism. The Secret Service is part of the DoHS, and they deal with counterfeiting and executive protection.

Secret Service Mission Statement:

The United States Secret Service is mandated by statute and executive order to carry out two significant missions: protection and criminal investigations. The Secret Service protects the President and Vice President, their families, heads of state, and other designated individuals; investigates threats against these protectees; protects the White House, Vice President’s Residence, Foreign Missions, and other buildings within Washington, D.C.; and plans and implements security designs for designated National Special Security Events. The Secret Service also investigates violations of laws relating to counterfeiting of obligations and securities of the United States; financial crimes that include, but are not limited to, access device fraud, financial institution fraud, identity theft, computer fraud; and computer-based attacks on our nation’s financial, banking, and telecommunications infrastructure.

(source)

So if a terrorist wanted to blow up any of these buildings like what happened in Kenya in 1998 the Secret Service would be involved.

This was taken from the investigations link above

Since 1984, our investigative responsibilities have expanded to include crimes that involve financial institution fraud, computer and telecommunications fraud, false identification documents, access device fraud, advance fee fraud, electronic funds transfers, and money laundering as it relates to our core violations.

If terrorist use money transfers within the US its feasible to have the Secret Service involved.

 

[freeny]

Wow. This thread has taken a wierd turn

 

[Tanglewood]

Hopefully this will end those National Enquirer headlines when I'm in the check out line.

Though, probably not.

 

[zimv20]

So I think DoHS and ICE gets the glory of finding and getting the guy while the State and Justice department get to do the paperwork to get him extradited.

iow, a political score for DoHS, as i suggested.

tanglewood, thanks for the research.

and for all the eyerollers, thanks for your "support" as well. what do you think will happen to this country once everyone stops paying attention?

 

[EricNau]

Wow. This thread has taken a wierd turn

This is MacRumors... It should be expected.

 

[mac-er]

iow, a political score for DoHS, as i suggested.

tanglewood, thanks for the research.

and for all the eyerollers, thanks for your "support" as well. what do you think will happen to this country once everyone stops paying attention?

Please stop with the conspiracy theories.

From CNN:

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents and Thai authorities worked closely on the case for two months prior to his arrest on Wednesday, Hurst said.

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That is why DoHS is involved. You are making assumptions simply because of quotes in the media. Maybe the DoHS is the spokespeople while the State and Justice departments don't feel a need to speak out since DoHS did all the work?

Wow. This thread has taken a wierd turn

That is what happens when nuts become involved in something.
Just look at the Ramsey case.

 

[mac-er]

True, they could be involved with terrorism, but their day-to-day activities do not involve terrorism. The world doesn't revolve around terrorism, George.

Secret Service Mission Statement:


(source)

So if a terrorist wanted to blow up any of these buildings like what happened in Kenya in 1998 the Secret Service would be involved.

This was taken from the investigations link above


If terrorist use money transfers within the US its feasible to have the Secret Service involved.

 

[iGary]

I kind of grinned this morning when I was watching CNN at the gym and the teletype said "There is some suspicion this morning as to the validity of the confession given by..."

He's a nut job looking for attention.

 

[XNine]

I kind of grinned this morning when I was watching CNN at the gym and the teletype said "There is some suspicion this morning as to the validity of the confession given by..."

He's a nut job looking for attention.

Agreed.

I'm, fairly certain the mother was involved. If not, it was the brother. I mean, the ransom note left behind did declare they wanted the sum of $118,000. The amount that was in John Ramsey's bank account. So, who outside of the family would possibly know that?

 

[iGary]

Agreed.

I'm, fairly certain the mother was involved. If not, it was the brother. I mean, the ransom note left behind did declare they wanted the sum of $118,000. The amount that was in John Ramsey's bank account. So, who outside of the family would possibly know that?

Well right, and if you have someone's kid, why not ask for a half mil?

 

[rjgonzales]

I kind of grinned this morning when I was watching CNN at the gym and the teletype said "There is some suspicion this morning as to the validity of the confession given by..."

He's a nut job looking for attention.

Or he would rather spend the rest of his life as a "celebrity" in an American prison rather than subject himself to who knows what in a Thai prison for his "unrelated sex acts."

 

[zimv20]

Please stop with the conspiracy theories.

please look up the word conspiracy. you clearly don't know what it means.

 

[iGary]

Or he would rather spend the rest of his life as a "celebrity" in an American prison rather than subject himself to who knows what in a Thai prison for his "unrelated sex acts."

Something like that. My guess is he did not do it.

 

[XNine]

Well right, and if you have someone's kid, why not ask for a half mil?

*ring ring* Hello, iGary/Onizuka private investigators, how may I help you?

I just got this sick feeling in the shower, that the brother looked at his daddy's spending for christmas, saw once again that his sister got all of the attention money-wise, and went nuts...

 

[iGary]

*ring ring* Hello, iGary/Onizuka private investigators, how may I help you?

I just got this sick feeling in the shower, that the brother looked at his daddy's spending for christmas, saw once again that his sister got all of the attention money-wise, and went nuts...

The interesting thing is, though, you have to be built of steel (or nuts) to keep something like that a secret for 10 years. How could you do that and not feel so guilty that you had to run right down to the police?


I can't keep it a secret when I go off my diet and order pizza for lunch.

 

[XNine]

The interesting thing is, though, you have to be built of steel (or nuts) to keep something like that a secret for 10 years. How could you do that and not feel so guilty that you had to run right down to the police?


I can't keep it a secret when I go off my diet and order pizza for lunch.

I know what you mean, but that kid LOVES the cameras. I saw one time that there were cameras, and he looked back and nodded like "that's right, look at me."

 

[Hannah yo]

A lot of people used to or still think that her parents killed her. I have to disagree with this for many reasons. I dont officialy think that this guy did do it, all I know is that its clear he is and or has been involved with children. he had the pornography that he plead not guilty on but they still kept him off the computers and had him be supervised every time he went to visit his own kids. And then he has lost his Jod several times, but some things he is confessing have no relation to the case. In a way i think he was fed up with being turned away by the schools, so he went somewhere else and when they turned him down he got fed up and wanted some damn attention.

 

[mac-er]

This is a very, very interesting article about a theory that Patsy killed JonBenet (accidentally and then covered it up). Very thorough.

http://crimemagazine.com/jonbenet.htm