Just bought the Flaming Lips album... It doesn't work!!!!

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  1. amnesiac1984 macrumors 6502a

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    I have to say I'm incredible pissed with the record industry right now. I've bought the recent album buy one of my favourite bands, The Flaming Lips, and it bloody doesn't work. I have nothing to play it on except my Mac and my future iPod purchase, there's my portable player but I don't use that much. I searched all over the packaging for "copy protected" and its not on there, it does say in the small print, "Will play on some computers". Obviously not mine. Has anybody got "Yoshimi battles the pink robots" to work in a mac, or any PC? Please help, i bought this from cdwow.co.uk and I don't want to have to return it!
     
  2. GeeYouEye macrumors 68000

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    If your Mac has a Line In, you can use the line out on your CD player and a sound recording utility. Though none come to mind immediately since I don't use them, there are some out there and you can find them on versiontracker.

    It'd be a large, single AIFF file, but you can split it up by using Audion (you can use the waveform editor/mixer) or some other tool that can cut audio files.

    Note: this post is for hypothetical purposes only, and to actually do so is a violation of the DMCA.

    Yeah. So don't do it. ;)
     
  3. MrMacMan macrumors 604

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    Um right, its his own CD's and therefore he has the right to put it on his own devices.

    Weird my friend had that album, and no problems...?
     
  4. Vlade macrumors 6502a

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    Some copy protected CDs can be fixed by a sharpie marker, maybe your is one of them:confused:
     
  5. GeeYouEye macrumors 68000

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    It's the part about circumventing copyright protection that it violates.
     
  6. rainman::|:| macrumors 603

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    yes but what hasn't been challenged yet is that the copyright protections in these situations violate laws specifically granting personal freedom of (limited) duplication... So it's not solidly defined as illegal.

    This one needs to become a court case, and soon... a huge group of consumers need to sue...

    This is exactly what it suggested, returning protected CD's to stores, to show disapproval. That's what i would do, complain that it's defective, then go buy the album at the iTunes store...

    pnw
     
  7. crazytom macrumors 6502a

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    Audio Hijack would be the program to capture the audio...or you could download a demo of Peak from Bias, Inc. and possibly get both of best worlds there.
     
  8. Schiffi macrumors 6502a

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    Spark ME by TC Works is a good app (they'll send the serial via email because it was once a shareware app-now free). I recorded a vinyl to my computer with it.
     
  9. amnesiac1984 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Thanks for all the suggestions, but using a line in is not an option until I get an optical line in. Even then I still want to be able to use it with iTunes. Thats the thing, I'm not sure if its the CD or just my particular copy. I ordered it from cdwow.co.uk but it said hong kong on the package, will it possibly work if it was a UK copy??

    P.S audio hijack is useless for this as the CD does not even mount in my computer.
     
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    So what actually happens when you try to play it? Does it mount? I've seen at least one copy-protected CD that mounted, and although iTunes wouldn't play it, you could drag the AIFFs off the CD and play them without any problems.
     
  11. panphage macrumors 6502

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    I own Yoshimi. I also have a burned copy AND I have it ripped to my iPod. I have played it on a Cube and an ibook under Jaguar. I ripped it with itunes in jaguar on the cube. There's no copy protection that I know of. I'd say you have a defective disc.
     
  12. Ambrose Chapel macrumors 65816

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    amnesiac1984 is posting from the UK...looks like Yoshimi is copy-protected over there. copy protected discs are much less common in the US than in other countries. I believe that Radiohead's Hail to the Thief is copy-protected everywhere but the US.

    amnesiac1984, you can always buy the album from a US online store and get it shipped over there, or download it from somewhere...

    I think that this symbol is the copy-protected symbol. Is it anywhere on the disc you have?
     

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  13. eyelikeart Moderator emeritus

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    damn...this really sucks...

    I've been waiting for the copy protection bit to get into the mainstream and start affecting people...guess this is it.

    I don't think it'll last. CD's are already ridiculous as it is, and this will only hurt the industry even more I feel.

    I don't know...maybe it won't. :(
     
  14. crenz macrumors 6502a

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    The German publishing company Heise Verlag has started a database of CDs that have some form of copy protection. They encourage the readers of their magazines to submit their reports to their database. So far, over 1100 CDs are mentioned there (http://www.heise.de/ct/cd-register/default.shtml?s=suche).

    Seems you are not alone. They started this after a report in one of their magazines about copy protected audio CDs. A few interesting points off my head (probably not entirely accurate):

    • The music industry doesn't care whether the CDs are compatible with Audio CD standards or not. Their interest is not the security of the consumer (ie. that they can play it), but the protection of the music -- as stated by a spokesman interviewed by them.
    • Something like 7 out of the then Top-Ten CDs had copy protection. Some of them didn't give any indication of the protection at all on the packaging
    • Many are having problems playing those CDs on car stereos or cheap CD players. Some resort to copying and burning them using high-quality CD-RW drives, to be able to listen to their CDs in the car!
     
  15. amnesiac1984 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Thats the thing, I'm not actually sure where this came from, I ordered it from cdwow.co.uk but the package shipped from hong kong. Hail to the Thief is not copy protected in the UK and the disc doesn't look anything like the one your posted which is odd.

    The disc doesn't mount nor does ASP report anything being in the drive, I will try on another computer, it does work on my discman tho!
     
  16. Ambrose Chapel macrumors 65816

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    Hmm I remember reading posts from many people on atease's (rh fansite) board about getting Hail to the Thief only to find that it was copy-protected. I know that a bunch of people had ordered it from cdwow but I can't remember if they were the same people whose copies were protected. I do remember people posting scans of the artwork and seeing that symbol on the back of the jewel case.

    Either way, it seems your best bet is to return the protected disc and purchase it somewhere else. You can always examine the packaging itself at a store to look for that symbol.
     
  17. amnesiac1984 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Okay watch as this thread takes a U-Turn :D

    Just tried it in my dad's TiBook and it worked perfectly. Now why the hell does it not work in my MDD PowerMac when all of my other CD's do?????

    Its not copy protected.

    edit: i've tried starting up on three different partitions, 9.2.2 , 10.2.6 (current) and a 10.2 the 9.2.2 and 10.2 are virgin installs and neither work. It is not a software issue, how can my drive be doing this?
     
  18. Vlade macrumors 6502a

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    Weird... maybe its the reason that some CDRs don't work in old CD Players.
     
  19. Schiffi macrumors 6502a

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    different types of drives? (i.e. your tower might be CD/CD-RW while your dad's ti might be only a CD or a CD/RW/DVD-R. Different drives read disks differently and could account for a copy-protection.
     
  20. amnesiac1984 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Its a DVD Reading CDRW combo drive. My dad's is a slot loading DVD-ROM in a rev A TiBook. I don't think this is copy protection as i have copy protected discs that do work with my computer and I have done a lot of research and cannot find anyone mentioning that this album is Copy Protected.
     
  21. eyelikeart Moderator emeritus

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    I've seen cases where CD-R's work on some players & not on others. I'm wondering if it'll come down to the drives themselves being made not to read specific versions of CD's being made even?

    btw...Race For the Prize is my current track... :D
     
  22. jayscheuerle macrumors 68020

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    Slightly relevant

    I've read that CDs with copy-protection cannot legally be called "Compact Discs" (with the familiar logo) as the additional copy-protection violates the "Compact Disc" format.

    Is this logo on the disk?
     

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  23. jayscheuerle macrumors 68020

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    CD-R's don't have as much reflective coating as CD-ROMs. Older machines (and some current ones), don't have strong enough lasers to read CD-Rs or CD-RWs, or they read them and skip easily.
     
  24. amnesiac1984 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Re: Slightly relevant

    Yes I learned that at UNI, and yes it does have that logo. It works on all other computers in the house except this one or the Lacie Firewire CDRW I have, is it something to do with newer drives?
     

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