Well ... just joined is kinda a loose statement. I bought my new mac mini (yet to be named) two weeks ago sunday. and I love it so. The only issue I have with it is it needs more ram, which i will be putting in it once I pay off the mini as well as a bigger hard drive and a super drive. I bought a base model from CompUSA because they had one and 21 months no interest. I didn't get an iLife 05 CD, iLife 05 is installed though. Did the newer shipments of Mini's not have the CD with them? only the earlier shipments? I'm not too worried- at least not until I have to reinstall everything on my hard drive. Anyway- love the mini- love osx- and I guess it's true: once you go mac, you never go back. Peace. Michael ps- iPhoto is amazing for photo organization. Why doesn't mac have a iLife program for building websites? that would be sweet.