I was a little spooked today. To keep a long story long... and I feel I can tell you brilliant guys. best forum folk ever, I say! My brother is a little turd. always stealing and going out, drugs and all that. he said he was going to this youth club in a nearby village. so my dad asks if I want to go with him on a drive around trying to find him. so we set of for Delph, a 10 minute drive away. needless to say this club is shut, bank holiday after all. so we head back over the hills, a route we took only once before. My dad said he has been on this road twice before. One time, back when he was doing his marathon training in his 30's, he took this road. It was getting dark and had already ran about 13 miles, so he told himself he'd turn back soon as he got into Delph. So he's running down over this hill and all of a sudden he starts to feel scared for no reason. He looks around and finds there are no road lights and there are tree's in the fields overcasting the road. He didn't see anything but told me this was the one of the scariest moments of his life. he just felt strange. anywho. he's telling me all this as we're driving to this spot. as he reaches it he starts panicking. now my dad is a very strong character. does not believe in religion or anything. very cynical i suppose, logical. realistic. only he's now telling me his legs are going funny as we drive through the spot. I'm getting pretty spooked myself! only we drive past that and he says something that I was half dreading but half excited about... you know the words "There's something I haven't told you yet...". Turns out my great granddad (his granddad) killed himself in my dad and his brothers bedroom many years ago, he didn't say when but he was younger than 16. I was shocked, it was all part of this ghost story he was building up to but I just totally blanked that out and got lost in my own thoughts. Turns out he had mental problems but I'm not entirely sure. see my dads real dad was killed in a war in the 1960's. I dont know which one and I'm pretty reluctant to talk about it incase it brings back memories to my dad. If im taking an educated guess I think that the death of his son might be related to his dads suicide. war is s**t. but hey, just a few hours ago I thought my family were all fairly normal! Thing is I dont know how to feel. I'm a bit confused, not scared or anything just lost about all this. Its sad though. my great grandma, his wife, survived well into the 90's and I knew her very well. I would have loved to have met him, im sorta interested in where I came from and that. Suicide is such a terrible thing. Not in a judgemental way but in a way that it takes somebody away that otherwise you might have met. Anyways. the ghost story was that my dad was home alone when he was 16, after his granddads death, and he heard a massive bang from his bedroom upstairs. he was a bit spooked nothing had hit the floor or anything. I feel better for saying all this. a load off my chest!