Kernel fail after every sleep.....

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  1. iMacZealot macrumors 68020

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    My iMac's hard drive died in February (G5 2.0 GHz) and everytime I sleep it, it comes back with the kernel failure screen. At first, I thought it was just when I would hide all my apps before the sleep, but it just did it today....lost a ton of stuff. (When's Leopard coming out again?) Can I fix this?

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    What sort of third party apps and hardware do you have? Do you have third party RAM? :)
     
  3. eva01 macrumors 601

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    Try having all externals unplugged (minus keyboard and mouse) sometimes third party hardware can cause it to crash

    And since you seem to be having a regular problem, howcome you don't save everytime before you try to put it to sleep?
     
  4. iMacZealot thread starter macrumors 68020

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    The only third party devices connected are an external hard disk and my printer, but even before I got my EXHDD, the problems occured. It was mostly, if not all, once my internal was replaced.

    I don't think those devices are causing the panicks. And even if things aren't open and I sleep it, it still panicks!

    Any help anyone?
     
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  6. mad jew Moderator emeritus

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    Maybe try unplugging the external and the printer first and seeing if there's any change. :)
     
  7. iMacZealot thread starter macrumors 68020

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    I don't see what that would prove. This problem predates the EXHDD, and the printer is just kooky and most of the time it's off.
     
  8. mad jew Moderator emeritus

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    Yeah, but it could be a USB-based problem. It's just a bit cool to narrow down the possible causes. :)
     
  9. iMacZealot thread starter macrumors 68020

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    Well, it sure is a coincidence then to have a new hard drive and then the USB buses to go bad. :rolleyes:
     
  10. mad jew Moderator emeritus

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    Unless they're related...

    Does the external drive have a Firewire connection? If you're convinced the internal hard drive is the problem then boot from the external or an alternative source. If you get no kernel panics then replace your internal drive or check its connections. :)
     
  11. iMacZealot thread starter macrumors 68020

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    Yeah the EXHDD is FW400...but how can I boot from it? There's no OS on it. I guess I could take the FW chord out of the ExHDD and put it into my iMac G3 and run Panther...but I don't think that'll work. What should I do, mad jew?
     
  12. mad jew Moderator emeritus

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    Well, if it is the hard drive then boot up the G5 iMac from the OSX discs and install it onto the external from there. This bypasses the internal hard disk so assuming the internal hard disk is causing the problems, this should work. :)
     
  13. iMacZealot thread starter macrumors 68020

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    Can I use my Panther disks I bought separately? Or should I do the Tiger ones that came with my G5? Isn't that optimized for an iMac's default setup?
     
  14. mad jew Moderator emeritus

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    You may as well use the Tiger discs IMO. I'm not 100% sure this'll work but it's worth a try. Good luck. :)
     
  15. iMacZealot thread starter macrumors 68020

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    I just did a bunch of sleep tests. I would sleep it, wait for the fans to stop spinning, sleep it for about ten seconds, then turn it on again. The tests were:
    1) No apps open. Success
    2) Safari open. Success
    3) Safari hidden. Success
    4) Safari hidden, iTunes open. Success
    5) Safari open, Mail open, iTunes open. Success.
    6) Safari open, Mail open, iTunes open, iPhoto open (with camera connected). Success
    7) #6 but all hidden. Success.

    I don't know what's wrong. I'll try the hard disk boot tomorrow. Right now, I don't know where those disks are.
     
  16. mad jew Moderator emeritus

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    So it's not giving you kernel panics at the moment? Crap. That's gonna make troubleshooting difficult. Don't bother with the external drive boot until it starts kernel panicking again. In the meantime, keep everything backed up and maybe run fsck. :)
     

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