Kernel Panics!

Discussion in 'Mac Basics and Help' started by Astral Cars, May 17, 2005.

  1. Astral Cars macrumors regular

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    I need some definite help with my computer. I keep getting these kernel panics (screen grays a bit and a message in 4 languages comes up telling me to restart.) I've already had a few today and I had probably five yesterday. This last time I restarted after one my dock preferences must have been reset because it was much bigger, and doesn't hid when the mouse isn't on it, not to mention that it has all the wrong apps. I don't know what's causing this. I wasn't getting them for awhile and the last couple days I've been converting a lot of music to AAC and I started getting them again, more than ever before. I don't know if my computer is somehow overworked by converting music and doing other general tasks, but it's sure hard to get anything done when it crashes every couple minutes it seems. Oh, by the way, I'm using an iMac G4 800mhz. Please help me.
     
  2. Eniregnat macrumors 68000

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    I learned the location of the panic logs from mkrishnan. Look here: /library/logs/panic.log for the log and post it.

    Post the log so that others may comment.

    Reasons for Panics, 1, RAM- run the hardware test, 2, non-complainant hardware. Unplug all of the non-Apple items. 3, bizarre conflicts between software (what are you running when the panics happen. Lastly, disk spanning, that is when transferring files or browsing the internet, if you have less than a few gigs of space left on the system HD, your computer will crash. That’s what happened to me. Clear the cashes, free up as much space as you can.

    Run a program like Onyx or MacSweeper, or the Disk Utility. Have the programs update the prebindings, and if you can, run all the maintenance functions that they can. The former two are good tools (really just AppleScripts running routeens already built into OSX), I prefer MacSweeper

    Wait for people to help you, but posting the logs should help. If you have Apple Care or are still under warranty, try Apple.

    If worse comes to worse, reinstall the OS.

    Also post your system stats, os, etc…
     
  3. Astral Cars thread starter macrumors regular

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    Wait, so what is the address of this log?

    Thanks for the tips though, hopefully this will help.
     
  4. Eniregnat macrumors 68000

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    Look above.

    Hard Drive ->library -> logs -> panic.log
    Click on Panic Log
    Console will open (its an application)
    Select text, copy (command-c)
    Post in this forum, paste is (command-p)

    Good luck.
     
  5. cubixcrayfish macrumors member

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    Are you hooked up to a network, USB network adapted, I would get 3 or 4 kernel panics a day, till I took it back and argued with the manager and he gave me a different USB one that was not even meant for mac, took that one back and bought an ethernet gaming adapter that works well with my mini.
     
  6. Astral Cars thread starter macrumors regular

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    Thanks Eniregnat, I completely misunderstood you the first time. Thanks for the clarification. Here's what it said:

    *********

    Mon May 16 21:14:52 2005


    Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 0): 0x300 - Data access DAR=0x000000001FB3634E PC=0x000000001F82554C
    Latest crash info for cpu 0:
    Exception state (sv=0x1F946500)
    PC=0x1F82554C; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0x1FB3634E; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x1F825FA0; R1=0x0CB1BAD0; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)
    Backtrace:
    0x1F826F28 0x1F825FA0 0x1F81D5CC 0x1F80F020 0x0027E650 0x00280324 0x0007AC48 0x00021668
    0x0001BCE8 0x0001C0F0 0x00094318 0x003C006B
    Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
    com.apple.GeForce(3.4.2)@0x1f808000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(1.4)@0x1ccda000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.3.5)@0x1cc39000
    dependency: com.apple.NVDAResman(3.4.2)@0x25af9000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.3.5)@0x1cc59000
    Proceeding back via exception chain:
    Exception state (sv=0x1F946500)
    previously dumped as "Latest" state. skipping...
    Exception state (sv=0x1CC36280)
    PC=0x90007878; MSR=0x0200F030; DAR=0x09308000; DSISR=0x42000000; LR=0x900073F8; R1=0xBFFEE490; XCP=0x00000030 (0xC00 - System call)

    Kernel version:
    Darwin Kernel Version 7.9.0:
    Wed Mar 30 20:11:17 PST 2005; root:xnu/xnu-517.12.7.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC


    panic(cpu 0): 0x300 - Data access
    Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0:
    Backtrace:
    0x00083498 0x0008397C 0x0001EDA4 0x00090C38 0x0009402C
    Proceeding back via exception chain:
    Exception state (sv=0x1F946500)
    PC=0x1F82554C; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0x1FB3634E; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x1F825FA0; R1=0x0CB1BAD0; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)
    Backtrace:
    0x1F826F28 0x1F825FA0 0x1F81D5CC 0x1F80F020 0x0027E650 0x00280324 0x0007AC48 0x00021668
    0x0001BCE8 0x0001C0F0 0x00094318 0x003C006B
    Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
    com.apple.GeForce(3.4.2)@0x1f808000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(1.4)@0x1ccda000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.3.5)@0x1cc39000
    dependency: com.apple.NVDAResman(3.4.2)@0x25af9000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.3.5)@0x1cc59000
    Exception state (sv=0x1CC36280)
    PC=0x90007878; MSR=0x0200F030; DAR=0x09308000; DSISR=0x42000000; LR=0x900073F8; R1=0xBFFEE490; XCP=0p
    *********

    Mon May 16 21:41:11 2005




    Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 0): 0x300 - Data access DAR=0x000000001FA4C34E PC=0x000000001F82554C
    Latest crash info for cpu 0:
    Exception state (sv=0x1F948C80)
    PC=0x1F82554C; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0x1FA4C34E; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x1F825FA0; R1=0x0C9EBAD0; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)
    Backtrace:
    0x1F826F28 0x1F825FA0 0x1F81D5CC 0x1F80F020 0x0027E650 0x00280324 0x0007AC48 0x00021668
    0x0001BCE8 0x0001C0F0 0x00094318 0x80000273
    Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
    com.apple.GeForce(3.4.2)@0x1f808000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(1.4)@0x1ccda000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.3.5)@0x1cc3c000
    dependency: com.apple.NVDAResman(3.4.2)@0x25d56000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.3.5)@0x1cc5c000
    Proceeding back via exception chain:
    Exception state (sv=0x1F948C80)
    previously dumped as "Latest" state. skipping...
    Exception state (sv=0x1FBC6C80)
    PC=0x90007878; MSR=0x0200F030; DAR=0xF0267BD0; DSISR=0x42000000; LR=0x900073F8; R1=0xBFFEE450; XCP=0x00000030 (0xC00 - System call)

    Kernel version:
    Darwin Kernel Version 7.9.0:
    Wed Mar 30 20:11:17 PST 2005; root:xnu/xnu-517.12.7.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC


    panic(cpu 0): 0x300 - Data access
    Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0:
    Backtrace:
    0x00083498 0x0008397C 0x0001EDA4 0x00090C38 0x0009402C
    Proceeding back via exception chain:
    Exception state (sv=0x1F948C80)
    PC=0x1F82554C; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0x1FA4C34E; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x1F825FA0; R1=0x0C9EBAD0; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)
    Backtrace:
    0x1F826F28 0x1F825FA0 0x1F81D5CC 0x1F80F020 0x0027E650 0x00280324 0x0007AC48 0x00021668
    0x0001BCE8 0x0001C0F0 0x00094318 0x80000273
    Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
    com.apple.GeForce(3.4.2)@0x1f808000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(1.4)@0x1ccda000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.3.5)@0x1cc3c000
    dependency: com.apple.NVDAResman(3.4.2)@0x25d56000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.3.5)@0x1cc5c000
    Exception state (sv=0x1FBC6C80)
    PC=0x90007878; MSR=0x0200F030; DAR=0xF0267BD0; DSISR=0x42000000; LR=0x900073F8; R1=0xBFFEE450; XCP=0p
    *********

    Tue May 17 10:44:31 2005


    panic(cpu 0): Apparent UniNorth Hang: AGP STATUS = 0x00000004

    Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0:
    Backtrace:
    0x00083498 0x0008397C 0x0001EDA4 0x1F8253C0 0x1F825918 0x1F8108E4 0x00281008 0x0007B320
    0x00021668 0x0001BCE8 0x0001C0F0 0x00094318 0x00690063
    Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
    com.apple.GeForce(3.4.2)@0x1f808000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(1.4)@0x1ccda000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.3.5)@0x1cc35000
    dependency: com.apple.NVDAResman(3.4.2)@0x25e5f000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.3.5)@0x1cc55000
    Proceeding back via exception chain:
    Exception state (sv=0x1FDD9A00)
    PC=0x90007878; MSR=0x0000F030; DAR=0x16C27004; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x900073F8; R1=0xBFFED920; XCP=0x00000030 (0xC00 - System call)

    Kernel version:
    Darwin Kernel Version 7.9.0:
    Wed Mar 30 20:11:17 PST 2005; root:xnu/xnu-517.12.7.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC



    *********

    Tue May 17 15:44:21 2005


    panic(cpu 0): Apparent UniNorth Hang: AGP STATUS = 0x00000004

    Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0:
    Backtrace:
    0x00083498 0x0008397C 0x0001EDA4 0x1F8253C0 0x1F825918 0x1F8108E4 0x00281008 0x0007B320
    0x00021668 0x0001BCE8 0x0001C0F0 0x00094318 0x006C0065
    Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
    com.apple.GeForce(3.4.2)@0x1f808000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(1.4)@0x1ccda000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.3.5)@0x1cc3a000
    dependency: com.apple.NVDAResman(3.4.2)@0x26057000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.3.5)@0x1cc5a000
    Proceeding back via exception chain:
    Exception state (sv=0x1FDFE780)
    PC=0x90007878; MSR=0x0200F030; DAR=0xE0752000; DSISR=0x42000000; LR=0x900073F8; R1=0xBFFED240; XCP=0x00000030 (0xC00 - System call)

    Kernel version:
    Darwin Kernel Version 7.9.0:
    Wed Mar 30 20:11:17 PST 2005; root:xnu/xnu-517.12.7.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC



    *********

    Wed May 18 14:12:59 2005




    Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 0): 0x300 - Data access DAR=0x000000001FAF734E PC=0x000000001F83754C
    Latest crash info for cpu 0:
    Exception state (sv=0x1F6D3C80)
    PC=0x1F83754C; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0x1FAF734E; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x1F837FA0; R1=0x0CAF3B10; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)
    Backtrace:
    0x1F838F28 0x1F837FA0 0x1F8339C8 0x1F823DB0 0x0027E650 0x00280324 0x0007AC48 0x00021668
    0x0001BCE8 0x0001C0F0 0x00094318 0x00650079
    Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
    com.apple.GeForce(3.4.2)@0x1f81a000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(1.4)@0x1ccda000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.3.5)@0x1cc39000
    dependency: com.apple.NVDAResman(3.4.2)@0x2605f000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.3.5)@0x1cc59000
    Proceeding back via exception chain:
    Exception state (sv=0x1F6D3C80)
    previously dumped as "Latest" state. skipping...
    Exception state (sv=0x1FB3AA00)
    PC=0x90007878; MSR=0x0000F030; DAR=0xE02E5000; DSISR=0x42000000; LR=0x900073F8; R1=0xBFFEDEC0; XCP=0x00000030 (0xC00 - System call)

    Kernel version:
    Darwin Kernel Version 7.9.0:
    Wed Mar 30 20:11:17 PST 2005; root:xnu/xnu-517.12.7.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC


    panic(cpu 0): 0x300 - Data access
    Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0:
    Backtrace:
    0x00083498 0x0008397C 0x0001EDA4 0x00090C38 0x0009402C
    Proceeding back via exception chain:
    Exception state (sv=0x1F6D3C80)
    PC=0x1F83754C; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0x1FAF734E; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x1F837FA0; R1=0x0CAF3B10; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)
    Backtrace:
    0x1F838F28 0x1F837FA0 0x1F8339C8 0x1F823DB0 0x0027E650 0x00280324 0x0007AC48 0x00021668
    0x0001BCE8 0x0001C0F0 0x00094318 0x00650079
    Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
    com.apple.GeForce(3.4.2)@0x1f81a000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(1.4)@0x1ccda000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.3.5)@0x1cc39000
    dependency: com.apple.NVDAResman(3.4.2)@0x2605f000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.3.5)@0x1cc59000
    Exception state (sv=0x1FB3AA00)
    PC=0x90007878; MSR=0x0000F030; DAR=0xE02E5000; DSISR=0x42000000; LR=0x900073F8; R1=0xBFFEDEC0; XCP=0p
    *********


    That means very little to me. Hopefully it means something to someone and that someone helps me. I only copied the ones starting with the fourth one on May 16th, I accidently did all of them at first and it was about 7 times as many characters as are allowed, which I guess is a bad sign.
     
  7. Astral Cars thread starter macrumors regular

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    Anyone here know what all that means or have any ideas what my problem is? Thanks in advance for any help.
     
  8. blackscooby macrumors 6502

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    I'm certainly no expert, but I had a quick look around and found another similar thread.

    http://forums.macosxhints.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=39426

    That proved to be memory. The linked thread mentions memtest. Have a read of it and see.

    I just did a google search on the text below
    Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 0): 0x300
     
  9. robbieduncan Moderator emeritus

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    I would say that there is somthing wrong with the graphics chip (or maybe the logic board) or it's drivers. Every panic listed is in the GeForce driver module that is loaded.
     
  10. Mechcozmo macrumors 603

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  11. mj_1903 macrumors 6502a

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    It definitely looks like the issue is either in your Nvidia graphics driver or an issue internally in your graphics card (hardware or firmware). I would look for an updater for your graphics card or re-install Mac OS X. If that doesn't help your graphics card needs replacing.
     
  12. Astral Cars thread starter macrumors regular

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    Well I ran memtest and it was working fine and was almost done and I was just looking at something on the internet and I got a kernel panic, so I don't know if it was caused by the memtest, if that means my ram is bad, or if it was a coincidence. If you have any ideas on what it might be, let me know. I'm running it again now and I'll try and have the terminal window on top of things and watch it so i see if it says anything.
     
  13. keysersoze macrumors 68000

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    Do you have AppleCare? I hate to say it but I think it's bad hardware. Likely Logic Board is the culprit. My old iBook had all the same issues...and kernel panics... and I did all the tests etc. Bad logic board was the reason.

    Unless you have installed some other hardware recently like RAM. Then THAT should be the first thing you yank as you troubleshoot. Good luck--
     
  14. Astral Cars thread starter macrumors regular

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    Well I ran memtest again and once again I got a kernel panic towards the end, but this time I saw what it was doing when it happened. It was checking the second one and said "Bit Flip: testing 41." So does that mean that there is something wrong with my RAM? That would be kinda weird, this RAM was installed the day I got it by apple. I've always had kernel panics, but they been very infrequent up until recently. So do you guys think that the memory is really at fault here? Is it more likely that this panic was caused by something other than the RAM being bad?


    Also, what do you think it means that a few days ago after a kernel panic I restarted, and my dock settings were back to default? It didn't show and hide when I moved my mouse on and off of it, it wasn't the same size, and it had all the default applications in it.

    edit: oh, as for applecare, I can't really remember if we got it or not. We got the computer in fall of 02, so if we did get apple care it should still be valid right? Is there a quick and easy way to check if we have applecare?
     
  15. Astral Cars thread starter macrumors regular

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    So, any ideas? Is it my ram because of what happened with memtest? Is it my graphics card because there seem to be mentions of it in the panic log? Is it something to do with Pro Tools because there often seem to be problems with Pro Tools compatibility (and I think I installed a new version around the time these kernel panics started)? Or is it something completely different? Weigh in now and tell me what you think.
     
  16. john1123 macrumors regular

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    I think you should call Apple. As most people above have said, i believe that you need a new logic board.

    If you did buy AppleCare, you should have registered it one year after buying the Mac. If you didn't, you don't have Apple care.

    If the logic board does turn out to be faulty (and you DON'T have AppleCare), you'll probably need to invest in a new computer since the price to replace a faulty logic board is close to that of a new machine.
     
  17. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    EDIT: I didn't read carefully enough. :rolleyes:

    If you are out of warranty and feel comfortable, you should try removing the upgrade RAM stick and see if the panics go away. RAM does go bad sometimes. If pulling out the RAM solves the problem, you probably need to get new RAM. :(

    If you have warranty or don't feel comfortable, you should have Apple deal with it.
     

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