Killing 9

Discussion in 'Mac Help/Tips' started by samdweck, Oct 6, 2002.

  1. samdweck macrumors regular

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    Okay, so they are killing OS 9 in january, and it will no longer ship on new comps... but what I want to know is if there will be some way to take 9 completely off of a pre-2003 computer. I am sick of having it present, and would like to delete it altogether! Is this/will this be possible?
     
  2. Chaszmyr macrumors 601

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    OS9 isnt going to be completely dead.. Classic will still exist, it just won't be bootable.

    Yes it is possible to completely remove OS9 from a computer (i cant remember exactly how), but if you do if you try to run an OS9 app classic will begin to start and say the OS can not be found.
     
  3. samdweck thread starter macrumors regular

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    if you could find out how for me, I'd really appreciate it... also do you thimk apple will make a fix for taht in 10.3?
     
  4. MisterMe macrumors G4

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    1. Drag it to the trash.
    2. Empty trash.
     
  5. samdweck thread starter macrumors regular

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    r u serious? I can't wait!
     
  6. samdweck thread starter macrumors regular

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    no you can't... i just tried it... doesn't work b/c it is "owned by the root"
     
  7. Fezwick macrumors 6502

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    Then do this... open up the terminal. type rm -r with a trailing space. Drag the OS 9 folder on top of the terminal window. Hit enter and bye bye OS 9!
     
  8. samdweck thread starter macrumors regular

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    fez, ur a genius, only one thing... i have to figure out that unix part... let me give it a go! btw, what is a trailing space?!
     
  9. samdweck thread starter macrumors regular

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    wait.. doesn't work... says permission is denied.. maybe it's smarter than we think.
     
  10. Fezwick macrumors 6502

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    Just put a space at the end of -r.
     
  11. samdweck thread starter macrumors regular

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    thanks fezwick.. now i learned something new today! Let me try it out...
     
  12. Fezwick macrumors 6502

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    Oops... forgot you have to login as root. Go to the Utilities folder and open Netinfo Manager. Go to the Security menu and click on Authenticate. If you havent specified a root password you will be asked to do so. Now after that is finished you should be logged in as root. Now do what I said before and you should be golden.
     
  13. samdweck thread starter macrumors regular

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    i will try it, but can it ever be put back on?
     
  14. samdweck thread starter macrumors regular

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    access denied again... hmmm.. do i have to stay in that net w/e program?
     
  15. neilt macrumors regular

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    this is all very close....
    here is how you do it.

    1st. Are you an admin? make sure you have admin rights on the account you are logged into.

    2. in terminal type the following:
    sudo rm -R "/System Folder"

    3. You will be prompted for a password. This is your admin password for your account.
    If you are an admin, you will be able to do the 'sudo' level stuff.

    What this does:
    sudo - "switch user and do" since you don't tell it which user to switch to, it will switch to root.
    by the way, root does not need to be enabled in netinfo manager for this to work.

    rm -- Remove

    -R -- Recursivley, basicallly you are saying, remove this folder and everything in it.

    "/System Folder" -- what you want to remove. You can either put it in quotes or escape out the space by typing System\ Folder I think it is easier with the quotes.

    Neilt
     
  16. samdweck thread starter macrumors regular

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    i am an admin, i enabled myself as root, and did everything u said, and it still says permission denied... however when i try to drag it to trash it syas it's in use by system.. any thought?
     
  17. neilt macrumors regular

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    can you copy/paste what you have in your terminal window.

    also in terminal run top.
    do this by typing top at the command line.
    let it run for a second or two. then press q to make it stop.

    copy and paste that info as well.

    neil
     
  18. samdweck thread starter macrumors regular

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    Welcome to Darwin!
    [Sams-Jaguar:~] samdweck% rm -r
    usage: rm [-f | -i] [-dPRrvW] file ...
    unlink file
    [Sams-Jaguar:~] samdweck% /System\ Folder
    /System Folder: Permission denied.
    [Sams-Jaguar:~] samdweck% rm -r
    usage: rm [-f | -i] [-dPRrvW] file ...
    unlink file
    [Sams-Jaguar:~] samdweck% "/System Folder"
    /System Folder: Permission denied.
    [Sams-Jaguar:~] samdweck% top











    Processes: 54 total, 2 running, 52 sleeping... 142 threads 21:53:29
    Load Avg: 0.16, 0.29, 0.28 CPU usage: 3.7% user, 7.4% sys, 88.9% idle
    SharedLibs: num = 7, resident = 2.22M code, 160K data, 584K LinkEdit
    MemRegions: num = 3572, resident = 54.1M + 11.6M private, 61.1M shared
    PhysMem: 43.2M wired, 73.8M active, 136M inactive, 253M used, 259M free
    VM: 2.20G + 3.62M 6822(0) pageins, 0(0) pageouts

    PID COMMAND %CPU TIME #TH #PRTS #MREGS RPRVT RSHRD RSIZE VSIZE
    512 top 7.4% 0:00.48 1 14 18 248K 336K 544K 13.6M
    506 SecurityAg 0.0% 0:01.13 2 74 86 1.23M 5.43M 3.72M 67.3M
    502 Internet E 0.0% 1:13.69 7 83 222 19.6M 14.5M 28.9M 104M
    501 Mail 0.0% 0:06.23 4 136 158 4.28M 9.30M 10.7M 80.8M
    498 tcsh 0.0% 0:00.06 1 10 15 348K 600K 800K 5.73M
    497 login 0.0% 0:00.41 1 12 33 244K 388K 568K 13.7M
    496 Terminal 0.9% 0:01.74 3 60 99 1.16M 6.87M 5.78M 70.4M
    495 NetInfo Ma 0.0% 0:02.50 2 78 103 2.30M 6.43M 6.52M 69.9M
    493 AppleModem 0.0% 0:00.23 2 59 67 668K 4.25M 2.31M 65.5M
    492 modemd 0.0% 0:04.75 2 76 46 820K 1.57M 1.91M 16.4M
    491 FaxJobMgr 0.0% 0:02.17 6 112 87 1.65M 3.67M 2.88M 67.5M
    490 Fax Server 0.0% 0:00.26 1 54 72 888K 4.05M 2.54M 65.9M
    489 Fax Assist 0.0% 0:00.26 1 52 70 976K 3.48M 2.23M 64.5M
    485 iChatAgent 0.0% 0:00.63 5 64 51 472K 1.93M 2.21M 49.4M
    482 WeatherPop 0.0% 0:02.92 1 78 89 1.80M 4.84M 3.71M 67.2M
    [Sams-Jaguar:~] samdweck%

    in the terminal itself:

    Welcome to Darwin!
    [Sams-Jaguar:~] samdweck% rm -r
    usage: rm [-f | -i] [-dPRrvW] file ...
    unlink file
    [Sams-Jaguar:~] samdweck% /System\ Folder
    /System Folder: Permission denied.
    [Sams-Jaguar:~] samdweck% rm -r
    usage: rm [-f | -i] [-dPRrvW] file ...
    unlink file
    [Sams-Jaguar:~] samdweck% "/System Folder"
    /System Folder: Permission denied.
    [Sams-Jaguar:~] samdweck% top
     
  19. neilt macrumors regular

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    #19
    type your command all on one line.
    like this:

    [Neil-Tordas-Computer:~] neiltord% sudo rm -R "/System Folder"


    then type your password. when it asks.
     
  20. neilt macrumors regular

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    if you want to see what is happening type this:

    sudo rm -Rvf "/System Folder"
     
  21. samdweck thread starter macrumors regular

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    I am going to try it, but do you really think it will make a big diff? is this whole thing safe?
     
  22. samdweck thread starter macrumors regular

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    something intersting came up:

    sudo rm -R "/System Folder"Last login: Sun Oct 6 21:40:59 on ttyp1
    Welcome to Darwin!
    [Sams-Jaguar:~] samdweck% sudo rm -R "/System Folder"

    We trust you have received the usual lecture from the local System
    Administrator. It usually boils down to these two things:

    #1) Respect the privacy of others.
    #2) Think before you type.

    Password:
    rm: /System Folder: No such file or directory
    [Sams-Jaguar:~] samdweck%
     
  23. Rower_CPU Moderator emeritus

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    Stop Classic? If Classic is running in the background, then it will probably say "in use".
     
  24. samdweck thread starter macrumors regular

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    thansk for trying, but classic isn't running... good thought though... kinda like plugging in the toaster!
     
  25. samdweck thread starter macrumors regular

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    it might have said it didn't work, but somewhere along the line, the folder uh... disappeard! cool... just hope the comp starts up lol!
     

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