KTM X-Bow - Bit like the Ariel Atom

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  1. iGav macrumors G3

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  2. bartelby macrumors Core

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    It is rather jaw dropping isn't it!

    VW FSI engine and transmission too
     
  3. iGav thread starter macrumors G3

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    More so if it wasn't for the orange.

    I just noticed that DSG was a future option. That's exactly what a car like this needs. None of that clutch sh*t. :D

    And it's just begging for Audi's 4.2 V8 too. :D
     
  4. bartelby macrumors Core

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    :D :D
    Talking of light cars and silly engines.

    I've always fancied a Westfield with a Ducati engine (or 2)
     
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    ducati 1098
     
  6. NightFlight macrumors 6502

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    You wouldn't want such a heavy engine in a car like that.

    While the DSG is certainly faster, nothing beats the joy of a manual :)


    Anyway, Atom>this thing.

    I'd take a 300hp supercharged Honda K20 over a VW motor any day of the week!!!
     
  7. adroit macrumors 6502

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    Funny, I was about to say the exact opposite :D
     
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    hehe, were do you think that DSG technology came from ;) :eek:

    Audi currently is the development arm of Audi Union (Audi, Porsche, VW) :D
     
  9. Abstract macrumors Penryn

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    Does it come with an MP3 CD player? That's a make or break for me.

    If it doesn't, they just lost a customer!!
     
  10. bartelby macrumors Core

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    Or the Desmosedici!

    I saw a tv program the other day and some guy owned a Maclaren F1. He'd had some custom work done to it. There was an intercom system because "the engine noise is really loud and makes taking to passengers nearly impossible". There was also a 160GB in-dash MP3 player, I found the two being fitted to be slightly confusing...
     
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    Pretty certain the intercom is standard equipment.

    Fondle the accelerator and people can hear you in the next town!
     
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  13. iGav thread starter macrumors G3

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    I would. I'd trade a little weight, in favour of a more tractable engine (and of course more noise). :D

    It's mid-engined, so balance isn't exactly going to be much of a problem really is it.

    Manual. *yawns*.

    Grandma's drive manuals.

    Not just faster... DSG means mid-corner gear changes without disrupting the balance, DSG means the ability to focus on positioning and balancing the car on the throttle and brakes, DSG means constant left foot breaking and of course as you say, DSG means more sustained acceleration. :D

    As I said, grandma's drive manuals, DSG's (and the like) allow you take your driving to a completely different level. :D

    You have to supercharge it, the standard K20's... :p :p :p
     
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  15. iGav thread starter macrumors G3

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    My point being that it's not really rocket science to drive one, I always get the impression that some see being able to drive a 'stick' as some defining benchmark of being a real driver, or that a manual car is the automotive purity.

    It's not.

    It never was.

    It was just a small part of the technological progress of the car.

    And technology like DSG has replaced it in the echelon.
     
  16. combatcolin macrumors 68020

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    Maybe its the cultural difference between Europe and America, but in Europe an automatic is very much seen as a device used by people who aren't that interested in cars.

    Manual is just a lot, lot more fun.

    (Apart from London between the hours of 7am - 7pm and then its bloody horrid!)
     
  17. ®îçhå®? macrumors 68000

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    Still prefer the Ato and it goes from 0-60mph faster :p
     
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    I think that people should learn to drive a stick to demonstrate proper driving techniques to get their licenses. For too many an automatic just frees up a hand to use the cell phone or apply makeup.
     
  20. SpookTheHamster macrumors 65816

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    Manual is nothing to do with how difficult it is, it's about the connection.

    There's something extremely satisfying about a car that has a nice feeling gearchange, which can't be replicated with a button.

    That said, I don't know many grannies that heel-toe to match the revs just so.
     
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    You don't do any track driving do you???

    Like spook said, there is nothing more satisfying than executing a perfect heel toe and hammering it out of a corner. Not the same with a DSG/SMG/whatever....
     
  22. iGav thread starter macrumors G3

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    DSG's (SMG's etc) ARE manual gearboxes. ;)

    Agree with you there. *shudders at the prospect of inching through Green Park at 6pm*

    The front end does doesn't it. :p I thought that the first time too. Weheh.

    Also reminds me of a more contemporary (and extreme) execution of the Renault Spyder.

    It's that purity thing again. That only a manual gearbox can provide the fabled connection.

    So, by the same criteria...

    "There's something extremely satisfying about a car that has a nice feeling unsynchronised gearchange"

    "There's something extremely satisfying about a car that has a nice feeling of cable fed, unassisted brakes"

    "There's something extremely satisfying about a car that has a nice feeling of unassisted steering"

    "There's something extremely satisfying about a car that has a nice feeling of cross-ply tyres"

    All the above are of course true... ;) in their respect era's of course. :p

    I do actually.

    I disagree.

    I think having the ability to be able to brake incredibly late into a corner, whilst maintaining the ability to down/upshift whilst balancing the car on both the throttle and brake simultaneously to counteract any under/oversteer throughout the whole corner is more satisfying, if not more challenging myself.

    Though that's not to suggest that heel-n-toeing isn't satisfying of course.

    It's not.

    And it's not supposed to be.

    The same way it'd be folly to suggest that it's more satisfying to heel-n-toe a synchromeshed gearbox over a crash one for example.
     
  23. SpookTheHamster macrumors 65816

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    Now you mention it, I love unassisted steering! My 1502 (sig) is unassisted, you can feel everything a lot better.

    To me, driving is more about feeling than speed. Cars like the SLR (just an example) are amazingly quick, but they just don't get me going, all the technology waters down the experience.

    A car like the Renault Spyder, or an Elise or Caterham is much more my thing.
     
  24. bartelby macrumors Core

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    :eek:

    I think is really nice. The profile is stunning!
     
  25. Abstract macrumors Penryn

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    Only if you're from North America. For everyone else, it's just normal, typical of every driver.


    Or eat a burger. *cough*
     

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