La Radeon 9700 Pro Mac est une bombe !

Discussion in 'General Mac Discussion' started by Mr. Anderson, Apr 3, 2003.

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    Mr. Anderson

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    Note the beta tacked on the end!
    10.2.5 is due in the first few weeks of april apparently
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    Mr. Anderson

    ah cool, i didn't see the beta in the top paragraph.

    So another question would be how did they get the beta?

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    that, my friend, is a question we all want the answer to! I'm guessing its just some apple seeding thing. I don't know too much about anything really.

    In the 70's there was Gentle Ben (the big bear), in the early 80s, Simple Ben (i.e. me!) was born!
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    Mr. Anderson

    Well, I'd be a little surprised if they actually seeded Mac Bidouille - since they were the ones who originally had the pics of the new PowerMac case that got taken down by the Apple cease and desist order.

    Very strange.

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    Simple google translation says

    "We had been the first to show you to a photograph of Radeon 9700 Pro Mac. Here of exclusiveness first tests in this chart on line of a mysterious US source (which had already sent us the photographs). The tests were carried out under Mac OS X 10.2.5 beta (the first to have the R9700 pilots) on G4 Bi 1,42 in 1920*1200 (23 "APPLE).
    Under Xbench (Summarized): System Info
    Xbench Version 1.0
    System Version 10.2.5
    Physical RAM 1536 MB
    Model PowerMac3,6
    Processor PowerPC G4x2 @ 1.42 GHz
    Version 7455 (Apollo) v3.3
    L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
    L2 Cache 256K @ 1417 MHz
    L3 Cache 2048K @ 237 MHz
    Bus Frequency 167 MHz
    Video Card ATY,R300

    Quartz Graphics Test 159.07
    Line 162.12 4.13 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
    Rectangle 155.50 10.94 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
    Circle 175.85 4.05 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
    Bezier 170.21 1.85 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
    Text 137.51 2.24 Kchars/sec
    OpenGL Graphics Test 128.33
    Spinning Squares 128.33 89.80 frames/sec
    User Interface Test 158.28
    Elements 158.28 53.85 refresh/sec

    the saver of screen Marine Aquarium 720x540x32 = 333fps 1920x1200x32 = 270fps They is more twice better than the 8500 Mac Edition! [ MàJ ] Here to finish the results with the tests of Cinebench 2003.
    MHz: 2*1420 Number of CPUs: 2
    Operating System: 10.2.5
    Graphics Card: ATI 9700 Pro Mac
    Resolution: 1920x1200
    Color Depth: 32 ****************************************************
    Rendering (Single CPU): 135 CB-CPU
    Rendering (Multiple CPU): 245 CB-CPU
    Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.82
    Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 165 CB-GFX
    Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 445 CB-GFX
    Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 907 CB-GFX
    OpenGL Speedup: 5.51

    For comparison, here the same test resulting from a dual 1,42 equipped with Radeon 9000 (drawn from the Forums)
    Processor : G4 MDD Dual 1.42 Ghz
    MHz : 1416
    Number of CPUs : 2
    Operating System : X 10.2.4
    Graphics Card : Ati Radeon 9000
    Rendering (Single CPU): 131 CB-CPU
    Rendering (Multiple CPU): 247 CB-CPU
    Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.88
    Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 165 CB-GFX
    Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 430 CB-GFX
    Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 581 CB-GFX
    OpenGL Speedup: 3.51

    Note excel it result Open GL Speedup of the 9700!"
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    hmmm, most odd - my french isn't so good; are the benchmarks/specs actually from macbidouille? could it be that they're just relaying leaked info from ATI who were seeded 10.2.5b?
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    Mr. Anderson

    that seems more likely - since they mentioned that they were given the specs from an unnamed source.

    Thanks for doing the translation there MrMacman....

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    yep, that card pictured is the real deal. I thought at first it had to be a 9000, but the 9000 doesnt have a fan. Then I thought it was an 8500, but the 8500 silicon color (is it PCB?) doesnt match up. I also thought it could have been a PC branded 9700 or something. But ofcouse, it isnt.

    Just thought Id tell you guys.
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    Why the **** did you think all that, when you KNOW it is the 9700??
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    It looks like it might fit in a Cube.

    Anyone know the actual dimensions?
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    Cubist that's a very interesting question!!! :D
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    Notice the test machine a *bi* 1.42 G4. Those silly french :p
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    Re: It looks like it might fit in a Cube.

    i didn't think the cube's were that upgradable - do they have AGP slots??

    Even if they did i doubt they're 8x AGP
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    Re: Re: It looks like it might fit in a Cube.

    Yep, only 2x though.

    I think that current 8x AGP cards are backwards compatible all the way back to 2x (which hardly gets saturated anywayz) but I may be wrong.
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    Re: Re: Re: It looks like it might fit in a Cube.

    The AGP standard in itself is a completely backwards compatible standard. This includes AGP 8x.
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    I pray that this thing fits in a Cube without too much modification. If so, then I'll be running a Cube at 1.2 GHz with a Radeon 9700 and a 120 GB 7200 RPM HD. Sweet! And it'll all be in an 8"x8" enclosure. I can't wait! :)
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    that could get a little toasty!
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    And that's exactly why I've got a big ass heatsink on the G4 and a panaflo fan kicking air through it. It still gets a little warm, but not too bad to handle. :)
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    Over at xlr8yourmac they're stating that even a Dual 1 GHz G4 (133 Mhz bus, 266 Mhz DDR RAM) is hardly capable of feeding the 9700 with enought data...
    It'll be nice if you can fit it in a Cube, but it's not really going to help much speedwise.
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    It'll be a damn sight better than my current Radeon, for sure. The advances in vertex and pixel shaders alone will be well worth it. I've also got to imagine that it'll speed up QE performance a bit. I'll also be able to claim a supremely tricked out Cube. :)
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    Yep. :cool:
    Wish I had one.... I wish ya luck!
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    Not to be picky but the Dual/Ghz/DDR PowerMacs have a 166 MHz bus and 333MHz DDR RAM.
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    Yep, you're right. My bad. Sorry about that.
    Got confused with either the Single 1 GHz or Dual 1 GHz QS....
    Which makes the statement above even more true.
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    why wouldnt I? One should always find ways to prove things, even if you "know" its true.

    What if I was to tell you that the picture below was definately a Radeon 8500 Mac Edition. Would you automatically believe me?

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