Labour takes a beating. Time for Chancellor Brown?

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by Sayhey, Jun 11, 2004.

  1. Sayhey macrumors 68000


    May 22, 2003
    San Francisco
    Looks like the voters of the UK are sending a message to Blair while he is away in the US.

  2. brap macrumors 68000

    May 10, 2004
    "Kiss the arse of Uncle Sam/Oh to be an English man" - Killing Joke, 'Seeing red'

    I'm surprised about the huge Tory gains -- I abstained from voting for many reasons, one of which being the fact that neither of the main parties have any credibility whatsoever. If anything the blues, in office, would probably have made much more of a pig's ear of governing the country than the reds have done.
    The thing is, it's not just Iraq the people feel betrayed upon; it's Mr. Blair's authoritarian standing of late. He feels he can take U-turns on whatever damn policy he fancies today (Top-up fees spring to mind amidst so many others), and his whips will get the party to stand in line. At least now he's got a taster of what's to come next year.
  3. Thanatoast macrumors 6502a


    Dec 3, 2002
    So what do you think the impact will be? A less cooperative Blair? More of the same? Will this election adjust policy in any way?
  4. brap macrumors 68000

    May 10, 2004
    Heh. I'm quite sure Blair will either:

    * offer a carrot to the voters in the form of, I dunno, a tax cut, or a BNP-esque stance on Europe. That seems to be all the rage these days. Or,
    * hold off on the plans for world domination until the week after he's re-elected. Can anyone say "European constitution"? Heh.

    It'd be nice to think this will knock some sense into him, but absolute power corrupts absolutely and all that; and this guy's had it all his own way for 7 years. They're only local elections, anyway - we'll have to wait and see how the proportional representation ballots come out for the MEPs. The smart money's on the Green party ;)
  5. numediaman macrumors 6502a

    Jan 5, 2004
    Chicago (by way of SF)
    This election reminds me that American elections are so completely partisan now compared to many other countries. Nothing like this swing could happen in the U.S.

    A number of years ago the Canadians completely wiped out the Conservatives -- basically in protest. Same thing happened in Spain this year.

    Here, 45% of U.S. voters would vote for Bush even if he nuked somebody (which is still possible, as Zim has pointed out). Politics are so polarized that a protest vote is pretty much impossible.
  6. takao macrumors 68040


    Dec 25, 2003
    Dornbirn (Austria)
    hm actually there are more "portest voting" results expected in this european election gonna get some rough day for many current governments (including my own)

    shouldn't it be that if a government/party does a bad job they get less votes the next time ? ;)
  7. IJ Reilly macrumors P6

    IJ Reilly

    Jul 16, 2002
    For a different reason, I think. Most local elections in the US are nonpartisan.
  8. mda01aqt macrumors newbie

    Jun 5, 2004
    I heard that bush is so popular through the fact that he is a born again christain and therefopre has the support of much of middle america.

    on the otherhand i voted again Blair in protest. He is meant to be reflecting the views of the nation as our leader and he failed to do that through increasing foreign anger towards our citizens as well as jeopardising the authority of the UN which could have brought the world to chaos. The Lib Dems were the only ones to vote for as they asked for evidence before we went to war, which according to me would have been the most sensible path.

    I have to say i have been a labour voter all my life and so is my family, but we are utterly disgraced on how the electorate and the parliament were manipulated.
  9. Savage Henry macrumors 65816

    Savage Henry

    Feb 20, 2004
    in a one horse, two house, three pub town.
    But do you think that the style of Government that Bliar will be remembered for has actually made the electorate question those in power a lot more than previous incumbents. I'd like to think that democracy is healthier for that, allbeit for the wrong reasons. :) :(

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