Leaked Info on Third-Generation Thunderbolt Points to 40Gbps Transfer Speeds

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  1. macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Intel's third-generation Thunderbolt technology could see throughput increase to 40Gbps, double the current capacity of Thunderbolt 2, first introduced in Macs last fall, according to leaked information posted on a Chinese technology site [Google Translate].

    The site says Intel's new Thunderbolt controller, code-named Alpine Ridge, will see power consumption reduced by 50 percent, support for PCIe generation-3, and charging capacities of up to 100 watts. Backward compatibility will be maintained through the use of connector adapters, but the new Thunderbolt connector itself will be reduced in size.

    Last April, Intel first announced Thunderbolt 2 in April before seeing it move to the Mac in October. There is no indication of when the third-generation of Thunderbolt could make its way to consumers.

    Article Link: Leaked Info on Third-Generation Thunderbolt Points to 40Gbps Transfer Speeds
  2. macrumors 603


    Oct 13, 2008
    Everywhere And Nowhere
  3. macrumors member

    Oct 14, 2013
  4. macrumors 6502a

    Nov 24, 2005
    Can't they just release 1 version and get it over with? All these revisions just make it impossible to take this technology to mainstream adoption. The biggest advantage of USB 2.0 wasn't the technology, it was the fact that it stuck around for over 10 years.
  5. macrumors 603

    Apr 15, 2004

    Should be actually usable for high end Thunderbolt GPUs with minimal performance loss.
  6. macrumors member

    Oct 31, 2013
    It's at times like these we do appreciate that the Mac Pro, being a professional computer, is expandable!

    Oh, wait...
  7. macrumors 6502

    May 10, 2011
    Thunderbolt 3 is nice but the Thunderbolt 1 ports in my 2011 iMac are still virgins. :eek:
  8. macrumors regular

    Oct 16, 2008
    Yet another connector. Great.

    Hopefully they at least make this one locking, like XLR mic cables. I'm REALLY TIRED of my Thunderbolt hard drives getting disconnected!!!!!
  9. macrumors regular


    Aug 21, 2012
    Next Gen Mac Pro??? OMG!! TB3! DDR4! New socket/chips set!

    The intel road map tells all! Next Gen Mac Pro is not doubt going to be a bigger monster then it is now! Of course that is to say apple goes for the goods available !:cool:
  10. macrumors 6502a

    Nov 3, 2009
    We won't see this until Skylake according to the chart, so it'll be a while (Intel's roadmap = Ivy Bridge, then Haswell, then Broadwell, then Skylake). Considering the current Mac Pros are on Ivy Bridge, it'll really be a while before it makes it to that platform (next gen MP will almost certainly have Haswell-EP). And despite Intel providing adapters to facilitate backwards-compatibility with TB1 and TB2, no one's going to adopt this as a standard if they keep changing the physical connectors.
  11. macrumors 68020


    Jan 28, 2008
    Vancouver, BC

    At first i was like wtf....i remember usb 2.0 being released to mainstream users in like 2003 and only now are we seeing usb 3.0 to be mainstream...meanwhile thunderbolt is getting new versions year over year.
    at first i thought that sucks for developers and users/adopters/buyers...

    but then i realized since the ports dont change and everything is backwards compatible.....this is actually good news.
  12. macrumors 6502a

    Jan 5, 2011
    Maybe I would be more excited if there were any accessories that I could use with the first generation Thunderbolt port.

    Yeah yeah, I know there are a few accessories now, but they are all outrageously expensive.
  13. macrumors 68020

    Apr 2, 2008
    Exactly. It's ridiculous.
  14. macrumors 65816


    May 1, 2007
    Houston, TX
  15. macrumors member

    Jan 31, 2011
    Why are they iterating so rapidly with versions of Thunderbolt?
  16. macrumors 601


    Jun 26, 2009
    long island NY
    Because no one is using it and Intel thinks that is because of speed?:confused:

    Just make it affordable. All this speed means nothing if no one can afford to use it.
  17. macrumors 6502a

    Nov 3, 2009
    The ports do change. You'll need adapters for backwards compatibility.
  18. macrumors 6502a


    Aug 8, 2006
    Am I the only one interested in the system charging capability? New 12" rMBA with TB3.0 :eek:
  19. macrumors regular

    Apr 30, 2002
    Yet another connector? Why? Why does Intel in particular seem to hate Thunderbolt?

    Because USB.

    I think that's what it really comes down to. Thunderbolt is a little high-end plaything for them. USB is the core of the business. And if they undermine Thunderbolt because someone decides to reinvent the wheel, no matter.
  20. macrumors newbie

    Jun 7, 2013
  21. macrumors 65816

    Jan 7, 2014
    No you don't. Thunderbolt 1 & 2 ports are the same. Thunderbolt 2 will work with 1 but not vice versa I believe.
  22. macrumors 68020


    May 28, 2009
    Montreal, Canada
    Oh yes. A 2880p Thunderbolt Display @ 60Hz might be coming. That would allow as much screen estate as the current TBD (unlike 4K which would offer less) when HiDPI is enabled. It would also explain why Mavericks has 2880p wallpapers.
  23. macrumors 6502a

    May 8, 2008
    Because when they showed the first version they said it was capable of 100 Gbps and that they would ramp it quickly. Which they are doing. They actually designed it to be much faster from the start instead of being pushed by other competing tech.
  24. macrumors 68030

    Oct 24, 2003
    The Amalgamated States of Central North America
    Apple is using slower technology in 2014 to transfer data between iPods and iPhones with computers than they were in 2001 (USB 2 vs. FireWire 400). Hope some of these technologies actually come to fruition eventually. If you fill an iPhone with video, it still takes a couple of hours to offload it.
  25. Contributor


    Oct 28, 2003
    I love how they're already talking about Thunderbolt 3 when companies barely even released tolerable accessories for Thunderbolt 1.

    I'm refreshing Lacie's page everyday for the Thunderbolt 2 family being released this month and now this. Ohhhh the bleeding edge.

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