Lenovo Passes Apple in U.S. PC Shipments As Worldwide Market Flatlines

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  1. macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Apple saw its U.S. PC marketshare decline to 10.6 percent in the second quarter of 2014, down from 11.5 percent in the year-ago quarter, according to new data released from Gartner. With 1.6 million shipments, it trailed behind HP, Dell, and Lenovo, ranking fourth for the first time in several years.

    Lenovo saw the most significant growth at 20.3 percent, while HP and Dell also saw high growth rates of 15.5 percent and 12.3 percent, respectively. Toshiba, with just over a million shipments, also saw growth of 18.5 percent.

    Gartner's Preliminary U.S. PC Vendor Unit Shipment Estimates for 2Q14 (In Thousands)​
    Overall, U.S. PC shipments totaled 15.9 million, up 7.4 percent year over year, while worldwide PC shipments saw flat growth compared to the year-ago quarter. Shipments totaled 75.8 million units, a 0.1 increase. Though worldwide PC shipments have ceased to decline in 2Q14, interest in low-cost tablets continues to eat into the traditional PC market.

    Apple's U.S. Market Share Trend: 1Q06-2Q14 (Gartner)
    IDC has also released its own estimates of PC shipments for the second quarter of 2014, painting a similar picture. IDC puts Apple's shipments at 1.6 million and its market share at 10 percent, down from 10.9 percent, a 1.7 percent decline. IDC's numbers also rank HP, Dell, and Lenovo as the top three vendors in the United States, with all three seeing growth of 15.6, 12.9, and 24.7 percent, respectively.

    Unlike Gartner, IDC suggests worldwide PC sales totaled just 74.4 million, a year-over-year decline of 1.7 percent, with U.S. sales up 6.9 percent.

    IDC and Gartner did not list Apple's worldwide market share for the quarter, as usual, because the company does not rank among the top five vendors on a worldwide basis. Apple's U.S. decline comes even as the company dropped the prices on two of its flagship products in 2014 -- both the MacBook Air and the iMac saw price drops, with the former gaining a small spec boost and the latter seeing the introduction of a new low-cost version.

    Article Link: Lenovo Passes Apple in U.S. PC Shipments As Worldwide Market Flatlines
  2. macrumors 68000

    Apr 23, 2009
    How the hell is HP number one? I understand Lenovo doing well and can even see why dell is but HP is a horribly messy company flailing around trying to get back on track and their products are not great at all.
  3. macrumors 601

    Oct 23, 2010
    I've been holding out of the new rMBP... However, the way it looks with intel now... I am thinking I may just pull the trigger soon.
  4. macrumors Penryn


    Mar 23, 2005
    My purchasing is just waiting on Skylake for the desktop. I bought a refurbished Haswell Retina Macbook Pro in the meantime.
  5. macrumors 6502a

    Jul 6, 2007
  6. macrumors 68000


    Apr 12, 2010
    I did not expect this,

    I would have expected Apple's marketshare in PCs to increase
  7. macrumors 68030


    Nov 23, 2011
    Marketshare luckily isn't reflective of quality. HP and Lenovo both churn out the cheapest crap they can, with failure rates (overheating for HPs, everything else for the Lenovos) unparalleled in the industry.

    It's a shame that parents and consumers simply see the price tag and buy solely on that. Nonetheless, people who buy HP certainly don't buy them again -- different story for Apple.
  8. macrumors 6502a

    Sep 22, 2012
    Price is the biggest thing. I know plenty of people who just aren't willing and/or able to spend the money on a Mac.
  9. macrumors G5


    Nov 14, 2011
    Not surprising as Apple hasn't released any new PCs and the Wintel space is upgrading from XP to 7/8.
  10. macrumors member

    Dec 4, 2007
    St. Petersburg, FL

    iPad is taking a lot of Macbook sales....
  11. macrumors 65816

    Sep 7, 2010
    I've owned multiple HP PCs and they usually last me 5 to 6 years. The last two I replaced because of the hard drives dying, but if I wanted to I could have just replaced the drives and gotten even more use out if them.
  12. macrumors 6502a


    Aug 11, 2009
    I don't get how Lenovo is doing this good, I work with these machines all day. They are garbage, literally the worst build quality and model variations, spec wise they don't perform as they should.
    I would rather have Acer or Asus, terrible, terrible laptops/desktops.
  13. macrumors 6502

    Nov 13, 2011
    The Apple of PC's has to be ASUS. I just love my Zenbook UX301. Can't see how HP gets #1 with the cheap crap they put out.
  14. macrumors 68030


    Nov 23, 2011
    Laptops or desktops? Unless you wear heatproof undies you can't say their laptops have got a decent thermal system.


    100% agree, my experiences exactly.
  15. macrumors 6502


    Apr 15, 2010
    Apple, please give a good reason to upgrade my first generation retina macbook pro with 512GB. I used to upgrade every release but I have yet to see anything that makes me go :eek:.

    Release a retina screen that perfectly scales to 1680x1050 and I'll buy another one in a heartbeat. This 900p scaling nonsense is just makes everything too big.
  16. macrumors 6502a


    Aug 5, 2012
    Please! Everybody knows Apple Macs are more expensive and generally better machines. But, the market is made up of consumers at all levels. Some richer and some poorer. The beauty of competition is consumers can find a product that suits their needs and their pocketbooks. There is nothing wrong with Lenovos and HP machines. There is a market for them especially the government market which seeks to save taxpayer dollars.
  17. macrumors newbie

    Jun 10, 2014
    Next Year

    Bet they will be next year.:)
  18. macrumors 603


    Aug 4, 2011
    T440 models?

    Or BestBuy retail shelf crap they push?
  19. macrumors regular

    May 1, 2010
    For the first time in years, I have no interest in buying an Apple machine. I got a Surface Pro 3, after having a Surface Pro 2 (sold my 15" Retina Macbook Pro) which is a really great machine, though not without lots of the typical Microsoft foibles.

    Still, it is far more interesting of a machine than anything Apple currently has. Which really makes me sad, because for the first time in a LONG time, I am hesitant to recommend an Apple computer to my friends.

    Say what you will about Windows 8.1, it is coming along pretty nicely - I was shocked at how much lower maintenance it was compared to Windows Vista (last version of Windows I had the displeasure of using, yuck).

    I really enjoy the SP3, and all of my friends and family are enthralled with it (though it has its issues).

    I have started hearing words like 'boring' thrown around when describing Macs these days, which is ... not supposed to happen!

    C'mon Apple, we are starting to believe that the media is right, without Steve at the helm, you've lost your way once more.
  20. macrumors 68030


    Nov 23, 2011
    You give consumers too much credit. As if the people who buy a crappy £200 HP with an AMD CPU have any idea what the heck they're doing. They just see the pricetag and nothing else.

    Additionally, I'd wager that your experiences with the bottom-rung of Lenovo/HPs are limited. Some of the crap they push is nothing short of abhorrent.
  21. macrumors regular

    Dec 22, 2005
    It's shipment not SALES

    I really hate these market research firms who toute shipments and not actual sales. Just remember the ZUNE how well it was doing against the iPod when first released, only to find they were flooding the channel and not really selling. These market share numbers fall in same category, internet usage numbers give a better indication of market share. Many of my customers are using Macs over 10 years old, some 20 so they are not replacing as often as their PC counterparts.
  22. macrumors regular

    May 1, 2010
    I will say this however, for all the talk about how "expensive" Macbooks are, try pricing a competitive PC, they are all as expensive or *more* expensive. I just don't understand the constant "common knowledge" that Macs are more expensive. Try buying a Lenovo or Samsung Ultrabook - and tell me what it costs compared to a Macbook.

    Though, I will say that the Macbooks (Air at least) are falling way behind in display quality / tech.
  23. macrumors 68000

    Aug 25, 2010
    This is not surprising at all. Clearly Macs are great computers and non-business users tend to be very comfortable in the Mac ecosystem.

    Just as clear though is that Apple has taken a very casual attitude towards fulfilling customer needs and wants. Consider the holes in the product lineup;

    There is no modern mini with current specs.

    There are no user friendly towers at all, mini-tower, mid-tower or full tower.

    There are no OSX tables or convertibles.

    Apple cannot make one expensive, specialized computer, essentially one type of AIO (in two sizes), an apparently ignored laptop-in-a-box, and two, partially overlapping lines of laptops and claim to be in the computer business.

    There are a lot of great PCs out there at less than $1000 that are more feature-rich and future proof than Macs are. Sure, the readers here prefer Mac but there are a bunch of Windows fans across the world that Apple has to be competitive to.
  24. macrumors regular


    Jun 10, 2010
    I'll probably get slammed for this, but wouldn't it be in Apple's best interest to lessen the price gap of their products compared to competitors? I suspect there's a large market of buyers who would move over to Apple if prices were more reasonable. I know, I know, they've made billions with their pricing model, but wouldn't they REALLY dominate the market with lower prices?
  25. macrumors 65816


    Feb 7, 2013
    God people can be annoying sometimes.

    If this was "Apple passes Lenovo" you'd say "not surprising, quality and quantity"

    What a joke

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