I am a new guy here but am a reg on a certain forum where Logic has its home. There is no better way of introducing myself than with a juicy piece of information. I chose to do it here since if I posted there it would last about 30 seconds. I love the app and am anxious to see what kind of PT killer they will unleash. I think it has been so long a wait for this version because they are really doing a complete rewrite and this must be a huge undertaking. The point I want to make is that I have an acquaintance that is a certified trainer and he has told me that Apple has pulled the certifications of all trainers with a Logic 6 certification. He also said that this is only done when a new version is imminent as Apple wants to keep it trainers up to date with the most current versions. Also the thread at the LP7 forum about improving the manual was finally internalized by the mods saying that it was time to take the feedback and enter into the next stage of development of the manual. This would make sense since I am pretty sure the manual would be the last thing to work on to tie everything together in a written form. So, I think this long wait is almost over. I have a feeling it will make a debut about the same time as leopard.