Ok well I screwed up this time, I messed up logib.nib, so I have to start up in single user mode. I have a backup in my desktop folder, so I need to replace the messed up one. But first I need to rename the backup but when I tryed to rename it with the command mv it came back with read-only name. Then I tryed to copy it and change the name with cp but it said it was a directory and wasnt copied. Also I cant seem to find the messed up login.nib. I have a little *nix knowledge but not much. Im using 10.2 and would REALLY appreciate anyone that could help. Thank you in advance to anyone that can help or that has any suggestions.