Mac GameCube Emulator!!!

Discussion in 'Games' started by hvfsl, Aug 1, 2004.

  1. hvfsl macrumors 68000

    hvfsl

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    I just thought I would let people know that the next release of Gcube is going to have a Mac version. http://gcube.exemu.net/

    It can run a few games, but they are not really playable ATM, plus you need to have an disk image of the game you want to play.

    But it is the first GC emu for the Mac and is something to keep an eye on. :)
     
  2. musicpyrite macrumors 68000

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    So when can I expect to download it?

    I've tryed putting a gamecube game into my mac, but my mac just spits it back out.

    So with this I'll be able to put the disk in, make a disk image, copy the contents over, and play away?
     
  3. Nermal Moderator

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    Technically the Mac version should be faster, because both the Mac and the Gamecube use a PowerPC processor. There are bound to be some differences, but I'd expect the overall architecture to be roughly the same, therefore most CPU functions can be used directly and won't require emulation.

    On the other hand, the programmers might be lazy and still use CPU emulation with the Mac version :eek:
     
  4. AssassinOfGates macrumors 6502

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    That's it? Meh??

    Anywho, I probably won't even bother. Running a N64 emulator on a 500x2 sawtooth was awful, the only 3d console emulator to work was Gamestation. Even then FFVIII had messed up menus.

    Even with my current rig I only emulate 16bit or lower. Retro. Where would I be without it? :D
     
  5. stoid macrumors 601

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    Mario Kart: Double Dash on my PowerBook, on the go? :eek:

    YAY!!
     
  6. jared_kipe macrumors 68030

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    I would be eager to try this bad boy out on my dual G5 (which runs 64 games really really well) as I have quite a few gamecube games with no gamecube to run them on. Hope this catches on in a hurry.
     
  7. MikeLaRiviere macrumors regular

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    Musicpyrite, I think you have to download the game from BitTorrent or some other source. Unless I am mistaken, the GameCube disk is proprietary, so I'm not sure that it falls under either the DVD or CD category. Thus, the Mac cannot read the disk. My guess is that pirates find a way to make the GameCube send the disk's data to the computer, at which point they package the data for programs such as GCube, and distribute the files via peer-to=peer networking. Someone correct me if I'm wrong... it would be very cool if one were able to archive GameCube games onto the Mac.

    Mike LaRiviere
     
  8. applemacdude macrumors 68040

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    And where are the ROMS? Dont post here pm if u know where ;) :D :mad: :cool: :eek: :p :) :rolleyes: :eek:
     
  9. neoelectronaut macrumors 68020

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    Wait, there's an N64 emulator for OS X? The only one I found was like a beta, and the other was like $20. (Pay for an emulator? What the crap?)
     
  10. Sol macrumors 68000

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    Do not pirate GameCube games.

    What point is there to a GameCube emulator if not to promote piracy? Nintendo made a great choice of disc format for the GameCube; it is unique and no-one can buy blank media to burn at home. Emulators like this simply undermine this system by relying on downloadable ROMs for content. The GameCube platform needs all the sales it can get so go out and pay for the games if you want to play them.
     
  11. titaniumducky macrumors 6502a

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    Actually these minidisks DVDs are also available - just not common. Any tray-loading burner/reader can use the mini-DVDs.
     
  12. Lord Blackadder macrumors G5

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    I have seen utilities in the course of my surfing and on P2P that can copy GameCube games onto one's HD; but to be honest I'm not sure what the legality on that is. My iMac (check sig) runs Gamestation really well (I was pleasantly surprised) and I have had no trouble running Genesis and Super Nintendo emus. I imagine it would choke on the N64 emus, and for sure on the GameCube. But, to be honest, the prices on GC are low enough nowadays that If one really wanted to play some GC games, its not at all expensive to buy a used GC and games. It would be cool to see how much advantage could be taken of the similarity in hardware between the GC and Mac in an emulator, though.
     
  13. applekid macrumors 68020

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    Sometimes I wonder if pirating helped the current video game consoles. From all of my friends with a PS2 or X-Box, at least one of their games is a bootleg or illegal copy.

    Anyways, the GameCube does use proprietary discs as Sol has stated above. They are not mini-DVDs. They are optical GameCube discs.

    For your emulation needs, goto: Emuscene.com. Join the forums and chat it up. NO ROM REQUESTS or you will be banned.

    You people know less about emulation than I thought. Let me clear up a few things:

    - The best N64 emulator on the Mac is sixtyforce. Go to Sixtyforce.com for the latest version. My 800 MHz G4 iMac can run Mario 64 at 30 FPS. There are some other games that run near 30 FPS. Not bad. Gerrit is working on Sixtyforce slowly, but eventually, he wants it running on a low-end machine like maybe a 500 MHz G3. Mupen is another option, but development has completely stopped. It is open-sourced, so if any developers want to pick it up, do it. Mupen is available at Emuscene.com and is very slow. Both are donationware.

    -I don't why you are surprised that emulators are shareware. Support your developers. It's just another app. It's a really tiny community, and if all we get are complaints, there's no point in development is there? There's less than 5 major emulator developers on the Mac. To complain about a little fee that gives you quite a few good features is stupid. Nobody is twisting your arm and forcing you to pay.

    -You all are expecting too much as far as a GameCube emulator goes. That is why I said, "meh." You really shouldn't expect much yet. It's still very much early in development. There's no telling how dedicated the person that's doing the Mac version is, especially considering how many developers we've seen come and go, or have little time for emulation that updates come about twice a year. Eventually, I think we'll see a decent GameCube emulator. I'm expecting to get about 1 FPS, literally. The current GameCube emulators run at about 1 or 2 FPS on the Windows. There probably won't be any assembly optimizations or nearly none. Even though the GCN has a chip based on the G3, it does not share enough similarities to make it any easier to emulate than any other emulator for any other platform.
     
  14. DavidLeblond macrumors 68020

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    Nope. The Gamecube discs are not traditional mini-DVDs. The GC reads the disc backwards. There is no way an unmodified DVD burner/reader can read the GC mini-discs, tray-loading or otherwise.
     
  15. TDM21 macrumors 6502a

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    Actually I dont think that is true. There are many PC programs that will let you read a GC disc. Just do a Google Search.

    I know alot of people do this with and run there pc like a virtual drive for there GC over the broadband router. They use a Phantasy Star Online exploit to load everything up
     
  16. Anarchy99 macrumors 6502

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    you would read the disc with a mac just like tons of people use for pirating only backwards some people download game iso's or whatever and there is a cable you can buy to connect the gamecube to the computer (its one of the bottom ports im not sure which one)
    well if you can stream games to the gamecube cant the gamecube stream games to you this is my guess
     
  17. DavidLeblond macrumors 68020

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    Again, I say you cannot read the GC disc in a PC DVD reader. The Phantasy Star exploit does not allow this to happen, you still need the gamecube to actually read the disc.
     
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    Why can't somebody write an app that reads the disc forwards (in raw format, ignoring the filesystem), then reverses the image file? You'd need to turn off error detection though, or else the drive would have a heart attack :rolleyes:
     

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