Mac OS X Lion - Front Row

Discussion in 'Mac OS X Lion (10.7)' started by intempo808, Feb 25, 2011.

  1. macrumors regular

    Jun 7, 2007
    Front Row's gone, the icon that was in my dock turned to a question mark and now it's no where to be seen... Have they ditched it?
  2. macrumors 6502a


    Aug 19, 2008
    Let's hope so, in comparison to something like Plex, FrontRow was pants.

    Apple will never provide a decent HTPC app because of their reliance on DRM video and iTunes content - only people who shop directly through Apple will appreciate an Apple HTPC app - everyone else (e.g. illegal downloaders) will still seek a 3rd party replacement.
  3. macrumors G3


    Mar 20, 2007
    It would be nice if Front Row could replicate the Apple TV.

    By that, I mean, actually list TV shows in seasons, rather than all the episodes at once. And have YouTube embedded too..
  4. macrumors 68020

    Oct 18, 2009
    Belfast, Ireland
    Here's hoping. The 15 seconds it takes to load Front Row when I accidentally press cmd-esc are the longest 15 seconds of my day.
  5. macrumors 6502a

    Mar 3, 2008
    United States
    Not like anyone used it. Most people will either use a Set top box or iTunes.
  6. macrumors 603


    Apr 1, 2009
    15 minutes in the future
    I used it sometimes. I do at least hope that it's compatible with Lion and that I can just image it off the snow leopard disk or download it from a torrent site.
  7. macrumors 603


    Oct 13, 2008
    Everywhere And Nowhere
  8. macrumors 6502a

    Dec 29, 2009
    FrontRow has been discontinued in Mac OS X 10.7 Lion.
  9. macrumors 65816

    Jan 13, 2008
    Interesting to hear.

    Meh, on the one hand, I was kind of hoping they'd actually fix it in Lion. On the other hand, since it was useless in it's current form to me anyway, I don't really care to see it go.

    (My only problem was it's lack of support for subtitles made it utterly useless to me... other than that it was fine for me. Plex and XMBC are overkill for my needs. I just want a nice TV-friendly front-end to my non-iTMS iTunes content that doesn't go blank whenever subtitles appear.)
  10. macrumors member

    May 6, 2009
    Sad to hear that :( I always use it, I have ABC Australia vodcasts that appear in there, I don't download movies illegally so dont have that problem, but you know you can create a link to a folder for downloaded content to appear.

    I think using iTunes directly for me won't help much, it's smaller font makes it hard to see, and you can't navigate with the remote.
  11. macrumors regular

    Oct 27, 2008
    Well that is unfortunate. I've been hoping for a true update to Front Row for some time now. I still think one feature for Lion will be the ability to run iOS apps, including some version of the AppleTV interface. I currently use Plex and EyeTV on my Mac Mini HTPC, but would love a unified interface that syncs everything (playcounts, metadata, etc) with iTunes and my iPhone.
  12. macrumors 601


    Apr 19, 2006
    Carolina Beach, NC
    Can you provide a link or more info? Thanks!
  13. macrumors 6502

    Nov 5, 2007
    I tried everything I could to get FrontRow 1.1 from SL working in Lion, but it just won't launch. Nothing much thats helpful in the console either. Seems to be related to application extensions.
  14. macrumors 68000


    Feb 26, 2008
    FR works with 3rd party codecs and reads videos from your home dir. Just create a shortcut in your movies folder to wherever you want (incl. Ext drives) and you can navigate to it.
  15. macrumors 68040


    Jul 31, 2005
    Too bad as I was using Front Row for watching new movie trailers. There's no other way to watch those without Front Row, is there? :(
  16. macrumors newbie

    May 25, 2010
    Very disappointing to hear!

    I, for one, prefer the simplicity and performance of Front Row over the other HTPC apps I've tried.

  17. macrumors 68000

    Jun 22, 2006
    Strangely, I didn't even realize Front Row was still on Snow Leopard.
  18. macrumors member


    Jun 14, 2010
    Oakdale, New York
    Apple TV App

    Wait a second why doesn't somebody just make an Apple TV app for Mac, seriously I'm surprised somebody hasn't done it already, it would basically do everything the new Apple TV has, I mean all it would really have to be is an application, like another HTPC app so its possible, and AirPlay would work thanks to Erica Sadun. Hell Erica Sadun should totally do, we gotta get her to forget working on Banana TV and work on an Apple TV emulator for Mac instead, whose with me?
  19. Moderator emeritus


    Jun 15, 2000
    Did you copy over /System/Library/CoreServices/Front You might also need to copy /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/BackRow.framework/ if that doesn't exist.

    Edit: /Applications/Front calls a function from /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/BezelServices.framework to initiate Front Row, so if that function doesn't exist in Lion's BezelServices framework, it will be much harder, if not impossible, to get FR to work, assuming that's the actual issue preventing it from working.
  20. macrumors 6502


    May 28, 2009
    FR has never worked right under SL for me anyways. It never could be able to connect to the internet for some reason. :rolleyes:
  21. macrumors 65816

    Jan 13, 2008
    Yes, porting the Apple TV interface would be nice.

    Or I could just buy an Apple TV...
  22. macrumors 68040


    Jul 31, 2005
    Anyone know of alternative way to watch movie trailers that were in Front Row? Ta.
  23. QuarterSwede, Feb 26, 2011
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2011

    macrumors G3


    Oct 1, 2005
    Colorado Springs, CO
    I won't miss it. They stopped using iTunes to run it on SL so I could no longer go from listening to something in iTunes and having it continue on in FR. Stopped using it once I upgraded to SL and AirPlay came out. Having that kind of power in your pocket is amazing and very convenient.

    I wouldn't mind a fullscreen iTunes AppleTV like interface though. Maybe that's what Apple is thinking for iTunes 11 in Lion (version # is a guess). or iTunes.
  24. macrumors member


    Jun 14, 2010
    Oakdale, New York
    Apple TV Port and Tricking FrontRow

    I think I'll start a new thread for just that idea. I'll call it FrontRow alternative Idea or something. O and maybe you can trick fromrow into launching by going to system preferences - CDs and DVDs and making it so it'll launch its script when u insert a DVD or CD or whatever. Let me know if that works.
  25. macrumors P6


    Jan 24, 2010
    There was an Apple TV app for Mac. It was called AppleTV4Mac. It ran only on Intell based Tiger and the latest version of the Apple TV OS was the one right before Airtunes support was put on the ATV. It does not work on Leopard or above.

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