Apple really needs to adress the business world with this and come up with a solution that will work. The Mac App store is not currently set up to handle business accounts. So what is a business with 20-30 computers supposed to do for this? Plus there's the download it over and over problem. Do they seriously want us to download the entire OS for every computer in the company we upgrade. Plus theres the issue of clean installs. If they allow you to make a bootable DVD from it, then that will help, but I will be very surprised if they do that. From a sysadmin standpoint, this is a nightmare. They should at least offer the option for business customers to purchase physical media for an inflated price.
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Mac OS X Lion Set for July Debut Priced at $29.99, Mac App Store Exclusive
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You can't, apple says 10.6 is required. I'm having trouble imagining someone who doesn't have 10.6 yet who's mad they can't get 10.7 right away.
How exactly do you define that? You could argue either way, it's just semantics. But it's hard to complain for $29. What features are missing that people want to see?
Nope, you download it on one then you can copy it to the other four.
Hopefully that is Apple's plan, they just need to release that info to take care of the worries.
Nope, you just need 10.6 to run App store and download it, once you have the download you can do a fresh install straight from that. Reminds me of the people who were convinced that a 10.6 install would require installing 10.5 and upgrading since that OS was an "upgrade".
No you don't.
For the people worried about restoring their Macs without a disc, the full overview of new features has an answer:
Internet Restore and Utilities
Built into Lion
OS X Lion includes a built-in restore partition, allowing you to repair or reinstall OS X without the need for discs.
Browse the web with Safari
Recovery mode now includes the Safari web browser, so you can check your email or browse the Apple Support site.
Reinstall OS X
OS X can be reinstalled on your Mac from recovery mode.
Restore from a Time Machine backup
Use recovery mode to restore your Mac from a Time Machine backup.
Internet Restore and Utilities
Built into Lion
OS X Lion includes a built-in restore partition, allowing you to repair or reinstall OS X without the need for discs.
Browse the web with Safari
Recovery mode now includes the Safari web browser, so you can check your email or browse the Apple Support site.
Reinstall OS X
OS X can be reinstalled on your Mac from recovery mode.
Restore from a Time Machine backup
Use recovery mode to restore your Mac from a Time Machine backup.
Even though there is no DVD or Flash Drive for restore, I am sure there will be an option to restore a Mac to a clean installation just in case you want to start from new or sell a Mac. I was never expecting a $29.99 price tag.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAOxY_nHdew
Burn your passport and credit cards too then. Go live the wild then, because now it's just hypocritical.
This can be seen in a positive way
If you think about it, since it is download only Apple is not having to put it on thousands and thousands of dvd's. I bet if it were available on disk they would be charging $50 for any version and not just $30. If you download a disk image file from the MAS, you can burn it to your own blank dvd so you can use it to wipe your hard drive and reinstall 10.7 or other things having a dvd makes easy. I'm just happy that its $30, downloading isn't a problem having FIOS, but I know how people with slower download speeds are going to suffer a bit since I had DSL before.
If you think about it, since it is download only Apple is not having to put it on thousands and thousands of dvd's. I bet if it were available on disk they would be charging $50 for any version and not just $30. If you download a disk image file from the MAS, you can burn it to your own blank dvd so you can use it to wipe your hard drive and reinstall 10.7 or other things having a dvd makes easy. I'm just happy that its $30, downloading isn't a problem having FIOS, but I know how people with slower download speeds are going to suffer a bit since I had DSL before.
It's going to be interesting when it comes time to upgrade the 15 iMacs and 6 MBPs at the office. I really don't want to tie my Credit Card to other people's accounts and I don't think I'm allowed to tie my account to 21+ computers. I've been asking Apple for Corporate .me accounts for a while and recently for a single Corporate Apple ID account to purchase software. I just can't see how tying company owned software to an individual rather than a device is a good idea. People come and people go and managing Apple IDs and Credit Cards associated with them will be a nightmare for me.
I hope they get this right to help businesses manage their software. And maybe it's in the plan...till then I'm nervous.
I hope they get this right to help businesses manage their software. And maybe it's in the plan...till then I'm nervous.
I am quite fond of cash.
Activation is bad enough but you are not tied to a name, address, and credit card number. I really do not see a way around the sovereignty of nations in practical terms for me. Not to mention the additional risks and costs are far beyond just getting a passport.Žalgiris;12695071 said:
If life ever gets bad enough I can always download a Linux distro over the free wireless at the library.
I love how apple isn't giving you guys options that sucks. Unfortunately thats how apple is they just do things their way and don't care who it leaves in the dust.
I think the whole Mac App Store is ridiculous in general.
I think the whole Mac App Store is ridiculous in general.
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Sweet. But I think I'm going to wait a few months to see how this OS experience is for users.
Sweet. But I think I'm going to wait a few months to see how this OS experience is for users.
I can think of a dozen reasons but how about flooding your downlink and not being able do to a coordinated upgrade on 30 machines in one go? Duh!
But what if your HDD crashes? Then you have no restore partition nor recovery mode.
And Lion adds another partition to your HDD? That's certain to mess up people using Bootcamp or multiple partitions on their bood disk.
Also if you are tight on disk space you have to save 4GB plus the overhead instead of having it on external media.
Mac OS X Lion Set for July DebutPriced at $29.99, Mac App Store Exclusive
Too exclusive for me! I'm not about to spend hours downloading this OS to all my macs. Either give us a DVD or USB option, or I'll be staying with SL. And with no support for older programs, this stinks. No wonder Apple can't get its foot in the business world door. Most businesses like to stay with the old and reliable. Apple now requires you to download to all your computers (even though the price is great), but it also may not run your older software. Bummer! If this policy continues Apple may become the new Microsoft!
Too exclusive for me! I'm not about to spend hours downloading this OS to all my macs. Either give us a DVD or USB option, or I'll be staying with SL. And with no support for older programs, this stinks. No wonder Apple can't get its foot in the business world door. Most businesses like to stay with the old and reliable. Apple now requires you to download to all your computers (even though the price is great), but it also may not run your older software. Bummer! If this policy continues Apple may become the new Microsoft!
The $30 pricepoint for all your machines is magical! Helped along only with the fact that Apple doesn't have to create any physical copies.
I would imagine that Lion would have a "create restore disc" option to burn a DVD or dedicate a USB for the purpose of restoring the OS on a computer.
I'm on my Windows 7 Netbook right now and I found that out - has a "create Windows 7 Restore Image" option - just attach a DVD burner to create the discs (in this case your system image) and your good to go...
I would imagine that Lion would have a "create restore disc" option to burn a DVD or dedicate a USB for the purpose of restoring the OS on a computer.
I'm on my Windows 7 Netbook right now and I found that out - has a "create Windows 7 Restore Image" option - just attach a DVD burner to create the discs (in this case your system image) and your good to go...
Apple is turning into Big Brother, if it hasnt already.
The lack of a DVD of OS X Lion is despicable. Canadians generally only get 25gb of bandwidth per month from Bell and each gigabyte after costs $2.00. My area does not support speeds faster than 2mbit, so a real life download speed of no better than 250kbps. A 4gb download of this would cripple most people on an already disgusting offering from a monopoly telecom company.
I expected better from Apple, such as, I don't know, TRIM support in OS X since they've been selling macs with SSDs for nearly 4 years now? And no, apple branded SSDs dont count, they're inferior to the offerings from Intel, OCZ, etc.
I really hate what Apple has become.