Mac OS X Security Update 2003-11-19

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    In your Mac OS X Software Update:

     
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    Stike

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    Too many updates in the past time...
    Is Panther less secure, or have new security leaks occured?
     
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    Not a problem! ;)
     
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    More updates doesn't mean "less secure" -- if anything it means "more secure".

    If Apple hadn't offered any security updates over the past 2 months... would that make you feel better?

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    At least Apple fix their problems before the world exploits them... be thankful for small mercies! Comparing Panth and a 'doze OS just doesn't cut it...

    cel, in defence!
     
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    OUCH! but with the new security update, definitely NOT XP ;)
     
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    Stella

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    Wish you people would stop crying about the amount of updates.

    Would you rather have an insecure OS like Windows?!

    This is the real world - Apple are not going to find all bugs / security holes before release - otherwise we'd still be waiting for OSX 10.0.

    Software should be released when stable, which is what Panther generally is - OK there are some annoying bugs, but the OS itself is stable - doesn't crash every 10 minutes. I've had very little problems with Panther and application stability.

    Its good that Apple are releasing patches in a timely manner.



    *(FW 800 drive problems should have been noticed during development / testing).
     
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    Timely my a$$

    My friend has been sitting on a remote root issue that affects all versions of OS X for months. Apple has *finally* agreed it will get addressed in a future patch. I Love OS X and Apple but come on, they need a serious blow to the head with a blunt object to get them to take a bug serious and do something about it. They finally agreed to patch it after many emails back and forth and finally a pretty curt "fix the issue or im releasing it into the wild without you having time to fix it." email. So let's not all fawn over Apple's "speedy" patch timing.
     
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    More updates means secure, yes, but no updates would tell me that there are no flaws. A situation that would be better, no?
     
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    There was a quicktime Java update in my udates as well...
    Maybe this was older, but it just showed up today.
     
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    no, the complaints mostly come from the fact frequent patching can (but not always) hint at bigger, more fundamental problems underneath.

    yes, given a base OS, more patches will make the overall OS more secure. however, the complaint is coming from the fact we came from a base OS (Jaguar) which seemed to require less patching, perhaps indicating Jaguar was more "solid" than Panther?

    i don't mind patching. but i'd rather have an OS that didn't require patching than the one that does. wouldn't you?
     
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    Keep in mind this is ALL third party software bundled with OS X. OpenSSL is not Apple software nor is zlib.
     
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    What most people don’t understand is that, Operating Systems run differentially on the same hardware, so one system may have an issue with an application and the other system with the same specs.

    P.S. It is not possible to have an impeccable OS!!!
     
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    That means, Apple fixed something that OTHERS screwed up!?
     
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    That or that they introduced getting said app to work under OS X.
     
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    Re: Timely my a$$

    documentation please?....thanks buddy.
     
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    I cannot post the documentation without the author's permission. But I will tell you a deadline of Nov. 26th has been issued to Apple. If no security update is forthcoming from Apple by Nov 26 2003 you will see this released in full detail on that date with detailed analysis and workarounds.
     
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    Re: Mac OS X Security Update 2003-11-19

    God, you turn me on with your way with words, Apple.

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    I'm OK with it

    I for one am happy to have an security update before the hole it patches is utilized maliciosly.


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    This one's not just for Panther. I get it in Jaguar too, but the description's longer:

    Oh and there was also another QT for Java Update.
     
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    Nothing is perfect, yet may be flawless; like OSX.. ;)
     
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    See, "no updates" doesn't necessarily mean no flaws though. It just means no fixed flaws. :)

    btw, as mentioned above, these are unix (opensource) components, not Apple's software.

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