Mac OS X Startup

Discussion in 'General Mac Discussion' started by Phirax, Jul 7, 2004.

  1. Phirax macrumors newbie

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    Just curious as I haven't used a Mac since Mac OS 8, but when you start/boot Mac OS X does it display the kernel loading as text like most Unix systems or is it graphical from the start like the older Mac OS's?

    Hopefully soon I will buy an Apple system..
     
  2. aus_dave macrumors regular

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    I don't reboot very often but from memory it is a basic graphic 'splash' screen with a line of text in the middle that updates during the boot process (e.g. Apache starting etc.).
     
  3. p-unit macrumors newbie

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    It is completely graphical. You don't see any Unix techno-jargon on startup. It's very similar to OS9, but updated of course.

    I hope that helps.
     
  4. Phirax thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Cheers, for that guys.. Oh sorry one more question, what about hardware posts from the bios, or is it straight into loading the OS?
     
  5. FredAkbar macrumors 6502a

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    There's nothing text-based at all. Like p-unit said, it's completely graphical. When you turn it on, the first thing that shows up is a grey screen with a darker-grey apple logo in the middle. After 30 seconds or whatever of that, it goes to a blue background with an aqua window-ish thing, with a progress bar and notes like "Starting printing services" and "Establishing network" or whatever. But if you start up in single user mode (hold Command-S at startup), it's all text-based Unix stuff the whole way like you were asking about. But that makes sense, since single user mode is just a command-line console anyway, no GUI.

    edit: I posted, then went to edit my post to add the stuff about what it looks like specifically. While I was doing that, the people below me posted. Sorry about the redundancy.
     
  6. upperblue79 macrumors regular

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    when it comes on it chimes, then it shows a white screen with a grey apple in the middle. then comes a blue screen that shows a dialog box with an apple in it and says "loading network" and such then goes to desktop.
     
  7. HexMonkey Administrator

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    Screenshots of Panther starting up are available here.
     
  8. Phirax thread starter macrumors newbie

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  9. bviz2 macrumors newbie

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    For the Unix geeks out there, there is a way to see the boot messages by holding down <cmd>-V immediately after pressing the power button to boot the system.

    See http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106388.

    I switched to a Mac a couple of years ago. As a person who has been using Unix since ~1989 I was extremely happy to find a consumer implementation that supported many of the apps I wanted. I have never regretted it.
     
  10. MacFan26 macrumors 65816

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    I believe there's a way to set it so that it shows up like command-v every time you startup, but I can't remember where to do that. There should be a simple way to change it back and forth.
     
  11. JFreak macrumors 68040

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    cocktail can do it via gui, that's the easiest. and one can always edit the boot script files if the root account has been activated. those scripts are in private/etc directory.
     
  12. Phirax thread starter macrumors newbie

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    oh and another note, what filesystem does Mac OS X use? and is the folder structure layed out unix/linux style?
    eg:

    /etc
    /dev
    /proc
    /bin
     
  13. robbieduncan Moderator emeritus

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    Whilst the "normal" unix file system is there it's hidden from the user at the Finder level. At the terminal you can see it all though.
     
  14. encro macrumors 6502

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    There is :)

    Permanent Verbose mode:

    nvram boot-args="-v"

    You will lose this setting if you reset the PRAM via the hotkey combination or using a Forth command (reset-nvram &&|| reset-all) in Open Firmware.

    ...or restore back to the default hidden mode:

    nvram boot-args="" (No space between the quotes)


    As always: Be careful when messing with this stuff. Make sure you type it correctly otherwise you will end up creating uneeded variables in your non volatile ram.
     
  15. MacFan26 macrumors 65816

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    Cool, I'll add that to my stickies :) I think it's fun to see it start up in verbose mode for some reason, maybe it's because deep down I miss watching the extensions on the bottom of the screen :D :D
     

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