Mac Pro to Use Custom Intel CPU? More Details on Mac Mini and Time Capsule

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    Over the weekend, we heard rumors that Apple will be delivering new Mac minis and Mac Pros in the late July/early August timeframe. Now, MICGadget claims to have new information about these upcoming desktop refreshes and Time Capsule/Airport devices. Much of the information we've seen before, but they do offer some interesting additional notes of interest.

    As expected, the new Mac mini will be receiving Thunderbolt and Sandy Bridge processors. As a side effect of this upgrade, the new Mac minis will end up using Intel's HD integrated graphics rather than an NVIDIA solution. This should be no surprise as Apple has made this same compromise in their low-end MacBook Pros using the recent Sandy Bridge processors.

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    As for the Mac Pro, MICGadget is also claiming that the new MacPro will be come in a "rack-mountable" design in their new server version to help replace the Xserve. We've heard this before as well, but they are also claiming that Apple will be using a "unique CPU" developed for the Mac and not seen in the PC.
    Early MacRumors commenters in the Mac Pro/Mac mini rumor discussion pointed out that Mac Pro-suitable Sandy Bridge processors aren't known to be available in time for the late July/early August timeframe. The use of a custom CPU would explain away this discrepancy. Apple and Intel have a close relationship and are Intel has been known to supply Apple with custom CPU parts in the past. The original MacBook Air also used a custom part that was available only to Apple for a period of time.

    As for the Time Capsule and AirPort Extreme, MICGadget claims that the devices are newly designed with better heat dissipation than previous models. They claim that the new TimeCapsule has a lower TDP and low power consumption hard drive using Apple firmware, while the AirPort Extreme has improved signal strength with six antennas built in. Finally, they echo previous claims that the Time Capsule will serve as a caching system for software updates in Lion and iOS 5.

    MICGadget has not previously published many original rumors, so their reliability is unknown. The custom Mac Pro CPU, however, rumor fits in nicely with the previous Mac Pro and Mac Mini release timeframe.


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    I could see each of these rumors turning out to be true.
    Hopefully the new routers will be iOS powered and the Mac Pros will get an updated form factor.
    Maybe even the desktops will come without optical drives standard.

    A glance at the Buyer's Guide shows a lot of Don't Buy Nows, Apple seems to be gearing up for some major hardware releases alongside Lion.
     
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    It certainly seems like it’s time for a case redesign.
     
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    That would solve the GPU-CPU conflict. I'm on the Mac Mini side of this rumor :)
     
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    So is it the entire Mac Pro line that will be mountable or just the server iteration.
     
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    Not trying to be a smart one, but what benefits would we get from having iOS run on a router? I mean, how would that even work? Like what's the point?

    I hope they bring down the Mac Mini price a bit.
     
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    Would this mean the new Mac minis are going to be graphically less powerful? If so, wonder if it would mean a cheaper entry price...
     
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    Custom CPU sounds very interesting. I wonder what would make it unique
     
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    wait out the MacPro until 2012?

    So, perhaps it's better to wait not this for this speculated version of the Mac Pro but rather the one due out sometime in 2012 instead?
     
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    I don't understand it either. iOS is for media consumption and touch. What benefit could it bring to a router, unless they want to integrate the Apple-Tv in it?
     
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    The 13" MacBook Pro uses the same integrated graphics and that didn't go down in price.
     
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    If the Mac Minis lose graphics power, that means they are "refining" their market target. The Mini users who are using a Mini as a compromise because they don't want an all-in-one and can't afford a Pro will not be happy. Especially if Apple goes whole-hog and turns out an Apple-TV like size and form device with no optical drive. I wouldn't worry too much about that, though, since a lot of people play their DVDs on Minis.

    Can someone fill me in on how well the "unique" Intel chips work on other Mac devices? I'm inclined to think that using a non-standard chip design will be a negative.
     
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    Perhaps "timed-exclusive" would be a better term than "custom".

    To design and fab a custom part, especially in small quantities is hideously expensive. This is probably just Intel giving Apple first dips on upcoming tech, eg. Thunderbolt - you know for publicity; it also helps that Apple doesn't ship crazy amounts when it comes to desktop/laptop products so Intel's "just starting up" manufacturing process can keep pace.
     
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    Yes...

    No...
     
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    I assume it would be for the update caching services... And possibly some kind of iCloud integration?
     
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    I love the MacPro case design, but, owning one, I can see how they could easily compress everything even further. It's a space hog because of the need to kill heat, I think. Can't wait to see how the revision turns out, assuming rumors are true. Once the drives go SS and optical bites it, these machines will be half their current size, easily.
     
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    Will have to look out for people putting their current gen minis on eBay then ;)
     
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    Well, if it's a 6 core Sandy Bridge variant, the extent to which it will piss off the enthusiast PC market will be pretty unique.
     
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    ARM is coming!
     
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    Maybe he meant he was hoping for Cisco IOS on the router? :)
     
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    Ha, ha, remember that version IGA outperformed the nVidia in lower graphics mode? :eek:

    Has someone posted the benchmarks yet on the actual MBP's comparing the Core 2 Duo with nVidia verses the Intel SB's?
     
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    I think the advantages would be huge.
    First, ergonomically, it could host an awesome and easily updatable web interface or, running even on the A4, be quicker at administrative tasks than the current generation of routers.
    Second, it could potentially host apps on the router or even have some feature overlap with the Apple TV. The apps could range from really rich BitTorrent clients to nice looking network statistics and file managers or robust web services- all things that could be offloaded from a more power hungry desktop or server.
    Think of how this could fit in with iCloud- just imagine the implications for the PhotoStream feature. You'd always have a local copy of your pictures and not have to worry about the 30 day limit and making sure your laptop or desktop is on to receive them.
    Much of this functionality has already been implemented, albeit experimentally, on iPod Touches connected via Wifi and with Apple's economy of scale they could probably produce an Ax CPU powered router as cheaply as Linksys, Netgear, and the like produce their Atheros or Broadcom based ones.
    While none of these features all together require an A4 or A5 CPU, I think considering the direction Apple is moving it'd make sense.
    I think there'll be a MacBook Air running on one before too long.
     
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    I'd like to see the Nvidia/Intel graphics comparison as well.

    I heard someone mention the possibility of Thunderbolting two Minis together, is this actually an existing or planned procedure? It would be an interesting idea.
     

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