MacBook Air has issues, says Apple

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  1. macrumors bot

    Jul 5, 2003
  2. macrumors 6502

    Aug 21, 2006
    hmmm of course it does..

    whats with apple and 3rd party headphone adapters lately?
    Kinda sucks if you ask me....

    Rev 2 will be amazing.....every rev a from apple is full of issues.
  3. macrumors P6


    Feb 3, 2005
    Right side of wrong
    yeah some issues there, but none that seem really bad or anything
  4. macrumors 68000


    Oct 20, 2007
    All the wireless 'problems' reported are differences between Draft-N specs. This isn't Apple's fault that they, or LinkSys, DLink, Belkin, Netgear and so forth have different ideas about how the N network should be handled.

    Apple writes their stuff to work with how they think N should be, and so does everyone else?

    Want N to work on your Apple product? Buy an Apple router.

    Hopefully when IEEE has settled on a specification then everyone can flash up to Spec-N and these problems won't exist.
  5. macrumors G3


    Oct 1, 2005
    Colorado Springs, CO
    That's a very good point but I wonder how true it really is.
  6. macrumors regular

    Apr 18, 2006
    Not surprising...since when has :apple: come out with a product that didn't have some issues. I've learned personally (Powerbook G4 400 & iMac G5 1.8) that it is always best to wait for the revision.
  7. macrumors 6502


    Jul 24, 2004
    Brampton, ON
    Is this the first time Apple have created a separate version of OS X for any Mac.? Leopard runs on every version of the Mac except the MacBook Air.

    I can see this causing confusion for the general public especially if they have to purchase a different version of Leopard. Aren't Apple starting down the same road that Microsoft have done with Vista by having different versions of Leopard.

    Or will Apple resolve all of this within the next few point updates of Leopard.?
  8. macrumors newbie

    Feb 3, 2008

    Apple didn't great a special version of Leopard for the Macbook Air. Basically, the disks that come with the Macbook Air contain drivers that weren't included in the retail Leopard disk, as those were created much earlier than the Macbook Air.

    If someone were to install Leopard from a retail disk onto the Macbook Air, so features may not work correctly. When the next OS is released, people will be able to use the retail disks to upgrade their Macbook Air, as those disks will include all of the drivers already.

    This is similar to why Tiger could not be installed on Intel Macs with the retail disk. The retail disk didn't support Intel processors, but the Leopard retail disk does.
  9. macrumors member

    Jan 31, 2008
    No, I think the 2006 Mac Pro had a special Tiger when it was new. Happens when they introduce a new Mac that needs newer drivers than the released OS.
  10. Guest


    Apr 26, 2004
    Gallifrey -- Capitol City, Prydonian Sector
    At the risk of being attacked for expressing my opinions here on this...

    Why in the world would Apple stake the MBA's functionality (which is very highly centered around it's wireless capabilities) on a WiFi standard which hasn't even been ratified yet?

    I mean, is it really killing people out there to not have N? Heck, I don't even have an N router. Do most businesses? Do most people? I'm not in any way trying to say Apple shouldn't be forward-looking. But the problem here is that Apple is trying to push a solution based on something that's kind of still semi-vaporware. That's not an entirely wise thing to do, IMHO.
  11. macrumors G5


    May 2, 2002
    Way to turn a few obvious tech notes--like things that can cause WiFi interference--into Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt :p

    For those who don't feel like reading words put into Apple's mouth, I'll give away what you really want to know: no defects have been discovered in the MacBook Air. This article contains no new information.

    The "issues" are doozies such as reminding you that Mac install discs are made for a specific model, so don't use an install disc from another model. Another "issue" tells us that if you get fewer WiFi signal strength bars, that also means slower WiFi speeds :rolleyes:

    Nice sensationalist headline, though. Imagine how some people will be falling all over themselves to learn what's wrong with the machine they love to hate.... only to discover nothing behind the headline :p

    Note: the MacBook Air supports A, B and G as well. N is not required.

    And Apple's whole line does support N, as do many third-party products, and N is the future. N is a very legitimate feature to tout, and with AirPort Extreme I'll be enjoying it myself.

    I think Apple will weather this lack of wisdom :p

    If you think N is the basis for the product, you may be looking at it with a very narrow focus. Wireless--N or otherwise--allows the REAL basis of the product: being thin and light. I'll install software--once--over WiFi and not much care how fast it goes. I'll throw the disc on a shelf and forget it afterwards. Ditto for migration: you do it ONCE. If I did care a lot about optical speed, though, I'd remember that reading optical discs is not the fastest data transfer on the planet anyway. I wouldn't worry about WiFi being a terrible bottleneck. And if I still couldn't stand it, I'd buy the optical drive :)
  12. macrumors 603


    Aug 2, 2002
    Cork, Ireland.
    Nope. Leopard is a 'reference' release - it runs on every* Mac released before it. Any Mac released after Leopard will have it's own custom Leopard build (what the differences are, I don't know. Mostly drivers, I'd guess); and these changes will be rolled into the next reference release - whatever cat that might be.

    (* every recent Mac that meets the requirements, that is!)
  13. macrumors 6502a


    Jan 12, 2006
    MacBook Air has issues, says Apple

    I saw this interesting article this morning on google news:link

    Your thoughts?
  14. macrumors member

    Jan 27, 2008
    Berlin, Germany
    Nothing too serious or new. As long as wireless works fine under normal conditions I should be ok.
  15. macrumors newbie

    Jan 31, 2008
    This just in: Macbook Air spreads AIDS and eats babies.
  16. macrumors 6502

    Oct 13, 2007
    I'll wait for the second revision and keep my G4-667 powerbook lol. I think the MBA would annoy me more than anything. It is pretty though.
  17. macrumors 68040


    Nov 26, 2003
    FUD is exactly what I thought when I saw this. I mean you could produce a similar article for just about any computer or electrical device going.

    I won't just leap to the defence of any Apple device for the sake of it, but I think it's silly to ignore what is basically a hatchet job.
  18. macrumors 68020


    Aug 27, 2004
    Thank goodness for nagromme. The voice of reason as always.
  19. macrumors 6502a

    Apr 14, 2003
    I just saw and used a MacBook Air in person

    this weekend at my local Apple Store.


    I was stunned at exactly how beautiful, light and thin it is!

    My computer habits don't require that I move very much, but if I had to, I would certainly get one.
  20. macrumors 68010

    Oct 23, 2003
    Brunswick, MD
    re: Wireless n

    The most important reason for adoption of wireless "n" is the greater throughput it should provide for streaming video. Right now, I have a D-Link wireless "n" router at home, but my Playstation 3 only has wireless "g" integrated in it. That's really unfortunate, because at wireless "g" speeds, I can't stream movies to it to play on my TV without them occasionally pausing or "hiccuping" because it is just *slightly* too slow feeding data to it.

    (Actually, some work and some don't - but the ones that stream properly tend to be encoded at lower bit-rates, so have a lower quality picture.)

    As much as Apple has an interest in serving and displaying video streams these days, it makes perfect sense to me they'd be on the cutting edge with faster wireless standards.

  21. macrumors 6502

    Feb 22, 2003
    USA (often) and Adelaide, OZ
    Yet another "non-article" from New Zealand

    The NZ ComputerWorld and NZ Herald just won't stop taking bites out of Apple... even when it is simply restating tech notes already noted from Apple, they spin it into "Apple has produced really bad stuff."

    The MS grip on government and industry in NZ is frightening.
  22. macrumors 6502a


    Nov 26, 2002
    sunny san diego
    networking issues on a mac laptop, surely you can't be serious?!
  23. macrumors newbie

    Mar 14, 2005
    My MacBook Pro (whatever the first rev was from almost two years ago) came with a version of Tiger than only ran on it. I had to get the logic board replaced, and Apple Support sent me another version of the MacBook Pro-only version of Tiger with the newer firmware.

    Remember the system disk that comes with a new Mac is more than just the OS, it has specific diagnostics and other stuff that is specific to the model that is shipped.

    Now that I think of it, I think my PowerBook G4 came with its own version of Jaguar. Of course, the retail Tiger disk worked fine on it, just like I suspect whatever comes after Leopard will work just fin on an Air.
  24. macrumors 68040


    Oct 12, 2005
    I tend to agree.

    Also people are forgetting that the MBA has only be available for the last few weeks, it's a very new product so of course there will be teething problems.
  25. macrumors regular

    Aug 4, 2006
    IIrc, they eventually started putting the version of Tiger that supported Intel Macs (10.4.6, maybe? somewhere around there) on retail disks, too. I'm sure they'll do the same with Leopard at some point. They don't change the retail box with every update, but they do do that more often than every major release.

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