Macbook battery dies, so does computer

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by johnjeffrey, Mar 5, 2007.

  1. johnjeffrey macrumors member

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    It used to be that when my Macbook was getting too low on battery it would put itself to sleep and if left for awhile, go into a sleep deep. Now it just dies and I have to plug it in and hit the power button for it to go on. What happened? Did Apple change the behavior with an update?
     
  2. connorxxl macrumors newbie

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    Same problem here. I updated my harddisk (to a Seagte Momentur 5400.3, 160gb). Don't know if it's related to that, but whenever the battery runs low, the system just shuts off, without any warning, or sleep...

    Any ideas?
     
  3. lordjonny macrumors regular

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    I have the same problem that if you press ok to the low battery warning it just turns off no more ten minutes of use before hand, however if im lucky enough to get the power in quick enough i can sometimes save it.

    I think it must be an update as i haven't changed my hardrive.
     
  4. johnjeffrey thread starter macrumors member

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    I have not changed my harddrive either and I do not think it is related to that. I also sometimes have an X symbol over my battery level indicator so I am thinking that this is perhaps a problem. I have scrolled through other posts of this nature and it seems to be a common problem. I'm going to try to get it swapped out for another battery today at the Apple store.
     
  5. cortesi macrumors newbie

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    Same Problem

    I have just started to experience this problem. I have a black MacBook and it used to ork fine. Now it now longer goes to sleep when on battery - just shuts off when the battery gets low. Must have been an update that did this.
     
  6. deadpixels macrumors 6502a

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    having an X over your battery symbol means the machine does not see your battery, that's the reason it shuts off instead of sleeping i guess.
     
  7. cortesi macrumors newbie

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    10.4.9 Fixes the problem

    I just updated to 10.4.9 and this seems to fix the sudden shutdown when on low battery reserve. The system now goes to sleep instead (like it used too)!

    Horray for patches. If you are experiencing the problem, try the new update, released today and see if it helps.
     
  8. Mal macrumors 603

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    I had that problem, and the repair center I took it to (not an Apple Store, btw, but a good third party dealer) decided it was the battery. It was reporting higher capacity than it actually had, so it was a pretty weak battery in the end, and that's why it was shutting off. When they replaced the battery, the problem went away. If you can get a store to replace your battery, it sure doesn't hurt (as long as you're not paying for it, which you shouldn't be). The software theory could also be true, as it could simply interpret the battery signal better.

    jW
     
  9. connorxxl macrumors newbie

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    Tried it with the new release, no changes. Switch off at perhaps 18% battery power. Will bring it to an apple center. The guy there doesn't think it's the battery. Will keep you up to date.
     
  10. cortesi macrumors newbie

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    I was wrong. For some reason, right after I applied the update, the Mac went to sleep instead of shutting off. However, following a reboot, things are the same and it again is shutting off with now warning. What a pain!!
     
  11. Koodauw macrumors 68040

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    Usually its the battery the causes this. Ive had it happen to me on my MPB. Just call apple, explain what is going on, and they will ship you a new battery.
     
  12. connorxxl macrumors newbie

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    Just wanted to give an update. My German dealer told me that it's not been the battery, but the logic board.... so he's put in a new one. Seems to be some late effect of the Sudden death effect perhaps? Not sure.

    Will let you know if everything's alright as soon as I got it back.
     
  13. DavoMrMac macrumors 6502

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    Yes, either a new battery is called for or try resetting the PRAM, and the SMU or PMU.
     
  14. jfig24 macrumors newbie

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    can you give instructions on how to reset these settings you mentioned?
     
  15. cortesi macrumors newbie

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    PRAM reset - seems to help

    I just reset the PRAM and this seems to have fixed the problem in my case. The computer now goes to sleep when it runs out of power - right down to the last minute.

    Resetting PRAM and NVRAM

    Shut down the computer.
    Locate the following keys on the keyboard: Command, Option, P, and R. You will need to hold these keys down simultaneously.
    Turn on the computer.
    Press and hold the Command-Option-P-R keys. You must press this key combination before the gray screen appears.
    Hold the keys down until the computer restarts and you hear the startup sound for the second time.
    Release the keys.

    If PRAM is reset, you may need to verify your time zone, startup volume, and volume settings using System Preferences.

     
  16. connorxxl macrumors newbie

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    Just an update from my side. My Apple dealer in Germany replaced the logic board (one of the first MacBooks, so he thought it's the Sudden death problem). Seemed to have worked in his tests, but when I had it back yesterday, the game started again... sudden switch-offs whenever the battery went low (~20min to go).
    I'll go to the Apple center here in London tonight, and ask for a new battery, my dealer suggested that.

    Will keep you informed.
     
  17. cortesi macrumors newbie

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    Final Fix

    My Macbook was shutting down with 20% battery power left - no notice - just turns off! I read the site of 1800 users with similiar problems http://www.macbookrandomshutdown.com/2006/12/06/rss-related-or-a-malfunctioning-battery/#comments and decided it was time to visit my local Apple Store. I told them my story, showed them the post and they gave me a new battery. Sure enough, that fixed the problem. Now the battery discharges completely and then the computer goes to sleep. Finally!!

    Bottomline - if you are seeing this problem you may just have a battery problem.
     
  18. iJawn108 macrumors 65816

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  19. connorxxl macrumors newbie

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    Last Update... I've been to the Apple Center here in London, they gave me a new battery, and my MacBook goes to sleep again if on low battery... very happy about that.
    I've only tested once... while calibrating.

    Chris
     
  20. SteveG4Cube macrumors 6502

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    My MacBook just started having a battery problem. It either shows an X or 0% on the battery indicator. The day before this happened, I watched a 2 hour movie on battery power and still had like 42% left on the charge when it was done. I took it to the local Apple store and they wanted to schedule me with a tech to look at it, wouldn't even grab another battery quick to verify anything.

    My hard drive also died without warning a few months ago, rather than go through the headache of dealing with service I took the opportunity to upgrade it. Now it's just getting frustrating. No more Rev. A products for me. :(
     
  21. will0407 macrumors 6502a

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    My blackbook used to be fine- when it had about 13mins of battery left, it would go to sleep.

    Over the last week or so, it has sponatneously turned off a couple of times, when there's been over 30mins battery time left. I don't get any warning at all. it literally just dies, and I have to plug it in to restart it, even thought it said 30 mins (sometimes more) battery left.

    Any ideas why? (all software etc is up to date)
     
  22. AlliOop macrumors newbie

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    PRAM fixed mine

    Thanks, Cortesi. Resetting the PRAM fixed mine. But I also had an earlier battery problem in which it would start shutting down my computer with 28 - 38% left -- no warning. I recalibrated my battery and that fixed that problem. (Google it.):cool:

     
  23. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    3 year old thread. There are plenty of current threads on this topic.
     

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