MacBook Graphics Card

Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by zorg, May 16, 2006.

  1. zorg macrumors regular

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  2. Gnorn macrumors regular

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    Does anyone know how a 3D rendering app like Vue or Bryce would perform on an integrated graphics card? Does it matter if I have of not have a dedicated card, and if yes, how much would that matter?

    I'm torn between a 17" iMac and the 2Ghz MacBook...
     
  3. RollTide macrumors 6502

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    Thats my situation too. If it will play call of duty or other older shooters like that, that don't require all that great of cards I'm in, I heard halo 2 plays at 20 fps, so it should play cod quite well(hopefully) But I want the 2ghz 1 gb ram, 80gb ram. Will the faster processor make the graphics better that the mini's performance with a 1.66ghz??? Just thought it would help a little. I really would like to play COD at least. 2D games should run fine, and vue should also be ok, not sure about Bryce... sry
     
  4. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    I want to know if the CPU performance will improve the frames per second as well. Still, my suggestion is refurbished 1.83 GHz MacBook Pro at $1599.
     
  5. Gnorn macrumors regular

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    That would be great, as I'm planning on buying Vue Easel (I'm on a budget here). I only mentioned Bryce for reference (in case some might not know of Vue). Do you happen to have a linky or something about Vue performance on an integrated card?

    Cheers!
     
  6. crazzyeddie macrumors 68030

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    Any serious 3D rendering app will run like **** on the integrated graphics. Get the iMac.
     
  7. blitzydog macrumors member

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    I'm also curious about the things mentioned here.

    I'm a big fan of Wolfenstein: ET - it'd be nice if that game played well, cause it certainly doesn't on my G4 800mhz/radeon9200 ibook ;d

    I don't care if it can't do the big ones like Doom3 or whatever, I'm happy with ET (which is such a phenomenal game)
     
  8. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    It should play Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory just fine. It's based off of the Quake 3 engine and the current crop of Mac Mini's (GMA950's as well) already play plain vanilla Quake 3 just fine. Is there a Universal Binary out for Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory though?
     
  9. RollTide macrumors 6502

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    One more thing... any chance that new gma945 will be put in these macbooks in the future?(If 945 is right number) Heard it may be faster.
    Anyone know how to get in that gma and up the MB and make it faster?
     
  10. afornander macrumors 6502

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    what about half life 2, i play it on my PC when it still used intigrated and that was like a year ago. what Frame rate would i expect out of that/:confused:
     
  11. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    I've played Half Life 2 in Direct X 7 mode at 800 x 600 using an Intel 865 integrated video chip. Note: this was also on a crappy Celeron 2.4 GHz with 512 MB of RAM.

    It should be at least be playable at 1024 x 768 on the GMA950 in Direct X 7 mode.
     
  12. blitzydog macrumors member

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    BAH uni binary- didnt even think of that. Well, i could always play it native in Windows - think it'd still be fast?
     
  13. Gnorn macrumors regular

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    Why is that? I'm just courious.

    I'm planning on getting Vue Easel and won't be doing any Hollywood compatible 3D action scenes :)
     
  14. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    Yeah, it should be very playable.
     
  15. afornander macrumors 6502

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    i think any 3D app used on a MAC with this intigrated graphics would be about 3X Faster than on a PC, am i right? Macs hardware is, overall made to work with each other a lot better, unlike most pc's that use unreliable drivers that could fail at any second.:) . if you could run a game at 10fps on a pc with a "Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950" than you should be able to run it at 30fps on a mac(wether using bootcamp or not).;)
     
  16. CanadaRAM macrumors G5

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    Ummm... No.
     
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  18. SC68Cal macrumors 68000

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    If your serious about doing graphics-heavy applications, why are you trying to cut corners?

    Don't buy an iBook and expect to play any games, honestly. It's not what the chipset can handle. You're better off spending the money for an iMac. I don't think many people play games on a laptop, unless it is their sole machine.

    God, I can't wait, there is going to be a million new threads about this now. [sighs]
     
  19. blitzydog macrumors member

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    Ummm, no. Here's the thing..

    Not evenone makes buckets of cash. I'm a struggling university student, so I don't have the cash to buy a laptop for mucking around and a serious desktop for intensive graphic editing. I gotta combine it - and the MBP is definitely out of my price range. Hell, I've been doing my graphic editing on a G4 800mhz iBook for the last 2.5 years - no, it's not as fast as an iMac or Powermac, but it's really all I ccould go for at the time, cause I also needed a portable computer for my studies. You can tell people to go for the more expensive machine all you want, but for me, at least, it's not an option. Cutting corners? Nah - It's about working with what you got. We're just curious to see how far we can go with the intel graphics chipset.
     
  20. dmw007 macrumors G4

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    For you, unless you absolutely need mobility, go with the 17" iMac Core Duo.
     
  21. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    Yes, if the Mac Mini Core Duo can then the MacBook can.

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  22. SC68Cal macrumors 68000

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    I'm probably the most underpaid Systems Administrator on the planet, simply because of my age. I'm not rolling in cash either.

    I have a Dual processor 500mhz Powermac and a 667mhz TiBook, and have no problems with graphic editing tasks. Frankly, with the exception of filter effects you're not going to use your processor 100%, and most of the times that you do, you're not doing massive scripts so just sit back and have a coke.

    I just find it irritating that people complain about things that a machine is not being marketed as, and does not have the components for. Do you see a MacBook competing with the Dell XPS Laptops or the Alienware laptops? I sure don't.

    Frankly, the difference between a MacBook and a MacBook pro for me, is the difference between ten weeks of pay. If I'm THAT serious about playing video games, I'll front up the money, because in the long run it will be more future-proof. So I can wait that much longer until my next purchase.
     
  23. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    I pulled by getting myself an iMac G5 last year and it's still powerful enough. If I want to encode some h.264 or DVD's I'll go bike or read the paper. It's just how much money you're willing to spend to save processing time. The MacBook isn't a gaming machine but for what it is it'll beat the pants off of most machines running iLife and OS X.
     
  24. bodeh6 macrumors 6502a

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    I played some trailers at the Apple Store and the 1080p videos were going at almost at full speed. I was getting between 20-24 fps. Still very good. Much better then any G4 based computer in the past year. These same videos would not play on a 17" Powerbook smoothly at all.
     

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