What would be a better buy, a second hand powerbook G4 1.67 with 100mb drive and 1 gb of ram, for Australisn $1500 or an almost new macbook 1.8Ghz 512 RAm, for about the same price?
buy the MacBook. i don't think it makes any sense to spend that much money on yesterday's technology.
buy the MacBook. i don't think it makes any sense to spend that much money on yesterday's technology.
OK, thanks for the replies. I should have mentioned that I am talking about $1500 Australian.
I'll only be running CS2 not CS3. The main reason I was looking at a powerbook is the 17" screen against a 13" for the macbook. A new macbook here is 1750 AUD, but I can get an almost new one for 1500 but then it won't have a superdrive.
I'll be honest, I'm leaning towards the PB. The screen will be a huge boost to productivity and will likely mean a lot more to your workflow than cutting your gaussian blur time in half. You will also get a much more powerful dedicated graphics card and will be able to use more GPU intensive apps (Aperture).
You will want to upgrade to CS3 someday, but honestly, Photoshop speed isn't bad and RAM is more important than CPU in general responsiveness in that app.
The CPU is yesterday's technology, but the rest of the package may more than make up for it. Keep that in mind.
Yes, based purely on the fact that the Macbook's graphics card is an integrated GMA950, whereas the Powerbook has an dedicated graphics card.So just to confirm the card in a 15" 1.67 powerbook would be better than the current 1.8 macbook?
This is the way I've been thinking but I thought I'd get some other opinion. However I am surprised that you say the graphics card in a late model powerbook would be better than a bottom range macbook. If this is the case then I guess I would definitely go for the bigger screen powerbook.
So just to confirm the card in a 15" 1.67 powerbook would be better than the current 1.8 macbook?
OK, thanks for the replies. I should have mentioned that I am talking about $1500 Australian.
I'll only be running CS2 not CS3. The main reason I was looking at a powerbook is the 17" screen against a 13" for the macbook. A new macbook here is 1750 AUD, but I can get an almost new one for 1500 but then it won't have a superdrive.
OK, thanks for the replies. I should have mentioned that I am talking about $1500 Australian.
I'll only be running CS2 not CS3. The main reason I was looking at a powerbook is the 17" screen against a 13" for the macbook. A new macbook here is 1750 AUD, but I can get an almost new one for 1500 but then it won't have a superdrive.
This is the way I've been thinking but I thought I'd get some other opinion. However I am surprised that you say the graphics card in a late model powerbook would be better than a bottom range macbook. If this is the case then I guess I would definitely go for the bigger screen powerbook.
So just to confirm the card in a 15" 1.67 powerbook would be better than the current 1.8 macbook?
You will also get a much more powerful dedicated graphics card and will be able to use more GPU intensive apps (Aperture).
Actually, Aperture doesnt realy heavily on the GPU. Quote from this page:
The speed of the graphics processor (GPU) was not a factor in TEST ONE and TWO and was only a slight factor in TEST THREE. We are experimenting with some other repeatable and quantifiable tests to see if they do more to stress the GPU.
I would say get a Powerbook if you want a powerbook. I am getting ready to buy a ibook g4 myself. I just cant see spending $1000 more just because its an intel. Its not like if you get a powerbook it will suddenly crash and be a pos because it isnt an intel it will be fine. If you dont want to spend the extra on a new one then get an old one and be happy. Everyone on the forums will always tell you to spend an extra $1000 to get a brand new. Some people cant get that so they get used ones which are fine.
ANYTHING is better than MacBook's GMA950!!! See benchmarks here: http://barefeats.com/mbcd3.html
Just look at MacBook 13" and PowerBook 15" lines in each test. Since 15 and 17" last rev. Powerbooks were equal in performance, this page should give you an idea of MacBook's graphics performance.
Again, I suggest you go for the 17", but not because of the graphics card. There are a lot more reasons to get that 17" PB than to get a used MacBook IF you are running CS2 and not CS3. This is coming from a MacBook user who also happens to do photography. The 13" MB screen just doesn't cut it with respect to colour accuracy or vertical viewing angle.OK thanks for that info. I had no idea that the macbooks did not have a dedicated card. So it looks like a late model rammed up powerbook it is then.
Actually, Aperture doesnt realy heavily on the GPU. Quote from this page:
The speed of the graphics processor (GPU) was not a factor in TEST ONE and TWO and was only a slight factor in TEST THREE. We are experimenting with some other repeatable and quantifiable tests to see if they do more to stress the GPU.