Macbook Pro resolution decrease

Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by supergod, Jan 11, 2006.

  1. supergod macrumors 6502

    Jul 14, 2004
    The new Macbook Pro has a 15.4" screen compared to the old Powerbook. And yet the powerbook has a resolution of 1440*960 as opposed to the new 1440*900 Macbook. What gives? I understand that the new display is some 60% brighter, which is overall more important for the quality of the display than the resolution, but I don't understand why a size increase should come with a decrease in resolution. Is Apple getting the display from a new supplier or something? Until they add a 17" model, this is definitely weird.
  2. tribe3 macrumors 6502

    Nov 1, 2005
    Vienna, VA - USA
    I know nothing about resolution and displays, but remember that this is a revision "A" machine, and its just the start of a new line. I'm sure they already have a newly designed case, a better res screen, and many little and bigger tricks to pull out of the hat and revamp when the first wave of euphoria fades away and sales start to slow.

    Something new every 6 months keeps our gadget hungry hearts pumping hard.
  3. supergod thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jul 14, 2004
    I highly doubt that. There's really not much further they can take the powerbook design. It's just perfect. All that they can work on is making it rock solid technically. Apple will have their work cut out for them improving the iBook line, not to mention the Powermacs, so why fix something that not only isn't broke, but rocks?

    Plus, if as they say there will be many hardware releases over the next few months, there's no way there will be an update to Macbook in that period.
  4. MRU macrumors demi-god


    Aug 23, 2005
    Actually I think the decrease is Apple admission that the previous hi-res screen is fecked.

    The 1440x960 screens all seem to exhibit the scanline problem. I think this is why they've sneeked in the 1440x900 res on the new macbookpro..

    This is great news for new macbookpro owners, but bad for existing hi-res PB users because it looks like Apple aren't going to fix the problem in existing PB's.....
  5. iMeowbot macrumors G3


    Aug 30, 2003
    The two models were put together by different teams, and in all likelihood the display choices weren't made at the same time. The panels they bought for each will also have been driven by practical considerations, like the size of the base.
  6. nutmac macrumors 68030

    Mar 30, 2004
    I think Apple should've offered higher resolution LCD on the $2499 model. That $500 premium adds 0.16 GHz faster CPU clock speed, 512 MB extra RAM ($100 upgrade), 128 MB extra VRAM (not offered but $75 upgrade for iMac), and 20 GB extra disk space ($100 upgrade). In other words, $500 equals to $275 worth of built-to-order options plus 0.16 GHz faster CPU. Apple should've made it more enticing by offering 1680x1050 LCD, although I have a feeling Apple won't have much trouble selling both $1999 and $2499 MacBook Pros.
  7. atari1356 macrumors 68000


    Feb 27, 2004
    Also, having a little less vertical resolution probably helped make room for an iSight camera.
  8. bodeh6 macrumors 6502a


    May 18, 2005
    Apple Laptops are still laggin in the res department compared to similar PC laptops. But the new res on the MBP should be fine for most people.
  9. bousozoku Moderator emeritus

    Jun 25, 2002
    Gone but not forgotten.
    I looked at HP, Sony, Averatec, and Dell and the standard resolution was 1280x800 for 15.4 inch displays. When I outfitted the Dell Inspiron with specs closer to the MBP (though graphics hardware was a Radeon x300 with 128 MB RAM) the machine was nearly as much as the MBP, but the performance would be much less still, it had a higher resolution.

    I guess people should be happier that the resolution wasn't lower than it is.
  10. homerjward macrumors 68030


    May 11, 2004
    fig tree
    the new display is a 16:10 ratio screen. the old one was 3:2
    1440/900=1.6 (16/10)
    1440/960=1.5 (3/2)
  11. Meyvn macrumors 6502

    Feb 3, 2005
    They changed for a couple reasons: The 15.4" standard is much, much more common than the 15.2" one. It's becoming increasingly harder to find 15.2" displays. And If you had a 1440x960 on a 15.4" display when it was designed to fit on a 15.2", it would simply look funny. They sacrificed 60 vertical (arguably less important than horizontal) pixels for better quality displays, and a more common standard. No brainer.
  12. oingoboingo macrumors 6502a


    Jul 31, 2003
    Sydney, Australia
    You've never wanted a PowerBook that was lighter, didn't get dented and scratched so easily, had better 802.11g reception or had more than 2 USB ports?

    Yes, the PowerBook design is pretty good. But it can be improved in a number of areas.
  13. Nermal Moderator


    Staff Member

    Dec 7, 2002
    New Zealand
    Correct. In addition, the iMacs and Cinema Displays are also 16:10. It's easier for developers if there are only two aspects (4:3 and 16:10) to worry about.
  14. Morn macrumors 6502

    Oct 26, 2005
  15. MRU macrumors demi-god


    Aug 23, 2005
    Especially if they are streaky white ones ruining an already desaturated PB screen....

    I'd settle for a brighter, crisper, vibrant display over 60 lines anyday :D
  16. PDE macrumors 68020

    Nov 16, 2005

    I have to disagree. While I think that in terms of style, the aluminum books are beautiful, I think Apple could do a much better job on ergonomics. For example:

    - a mouse button that doesn't require so much pressure. I mean, how difficult is that? Look at the pismo, thinkpads for good resistance. This clicker is just too hard for frequent use - that is if you don't want tendinitis in your thumb.

    - A wireless detachable keyboard AND an LCD that is adjustable in height - perhaps some kind of slide mechanism? Then this would truly be a desktop replacement.

    - I think the keyboard is excellent, but the Thinkpad T-series keyboards are still better, feel more substantial and have slightly more depth. And they are 1" thick so that's the problem either.

    There are many things that can be improved, the above are just a few of them.
  17. TDM21 macrumors 6502a


    Jul 7, 2004
    It might have something with adding the iSight to the top to the screen. If you notice, the bezel above the screen is taller then the PowerBook. I ran my 20" Dell monitor at 1600x1000 (50 pixels shorter then the native resolution) and it is about 1/2 inch shorter at the bottom. This is a little more then what the new bezel takes up, but could account for it.
  18. BlizzardBomb macrumors 68030


    Jun 15, 2005
    What maths did you use to work that out? It's more like 86,400 pixels. homerjward and Nermal are correct though, it's a lot easier for developers to just have two aspects to deal with.
  19. andiwm2003 macrumors 601


    Mar 29, 2004
    Boston, MA
    nice catch!:D
  20. Seasought macrumors 65816


    Nov 3, 2005
    I hope the price on the original, external iSight goes down now. :D
  21. revisionA macrumors 6502

    May 27, 2005
    I dont see no fookin lines...

    I do see however, a revision A product that reminds me of mine... so it wont be too many months before the low voltage dual core is in the revision B along with whatver else Apple sees users whining about the most.

    Remember pci/pci-x... and the first two batches of G5?

    Similar prophecy...

  22. RHMMMM macrumors member

    Aug 9, 2005
    It's because nobody else uses the 15.2" size - 15.4" is what almost EVERYONE in their medium-sized widescreen laptops. There is much more of a selection of LCD panels in that size, and I'm sure they are probably saving money because of that, too!
  23. devman macrumors 65816


    Apr 19, 2004
    yep I'm with you on the wireless reception. The antenna has been relocated on the MBP so it will be very interesting to see if that improves reception over the PB.
  24. devman macrumors 65816


    Apr 19, 2004
    But they're not backlit (and backlit is waaaaaaaaay better than the thinklight). I do lots of long-haul travel (Australia-USA mostly) and the backlit keyboard is fantastic (and I used Thinkpad T series for many years prior to the powerbook).
  25. Sunrunner macrumors 6502a


    Nov 27, 2003
    How often does a mobile user need more than 2 USB ports?? Many USB devices have a second port in the back to chain USB devices. And how hard is it, if you do need more than 2 computer plug-ins, to pull out a $20 mobile USB hub and plug it in.

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