Macintosh: Intel Inside! Now Improved With Delicious DRM

Discussion in ' News Discussion' started by MacBytes, Aug 2, 2005.

  1. macrumors bot

    Jul 5, 2003
  2. macrumors Penryn


    Mar 23, 2005
    Isn't the DRM for Rosetta though? At least that's what I've read from other articles...
  3. Moderator emeritus

    Mr. Anderson

    Nov 1, 2001
    Although its almost an issue of limiting what you can and can't do - if it is transparent, there won't be any real problems. I just hope all the doom and gloom potential discussed in the article never happens.

  4. macrumors 603


    Jul 3, 2004
    Mac since 7.5
    Agreed. If Apple uses a DRM chip to limit what hardware I can install my OS on, I really have little issue with that. If they choose to limit which applications I can use (beyond the obvious restrictions dictated by my choice of OS), that is much more intrusive. I can't see Apple doing that. That sounds more like a M$ thing to do to me.
  5. macrumors 604


    Apr 21, 2003
    All the articles i've read is to stop users from installing the current dev versions of OSX on to regular PCs.

    OSX on Mac Intels will only boot up if it finds the DRM.

    I can't imagine why apple would implement DRM to control what software people run using Rosetta. Rosetta is used to run PPC software on Intel hardware.
  6. macrumors G5


    May 2, 2002
    A big thanks to all the pirates out there. But if it doesn't affect honest users, I can deal with it.
  7. macrumors 603


    Jun 19, 2003
    Chicago, IL

    He must have missed the memo that HP is mulling over pulling out of the desktop\laptop biz just like IBM did. Also his logic is flawed. When a user can go out to Dell and pick up a $500 2.8Ghz/512MB RAM/80GB hard drive and install OS X on it they won't bother with Apple hardware. There are A LOT of people out there that simply don't give a crap about Appple hardware. They do care about the software and that is the reason why OS X is going to be locked on Mac only hardware.
  8. macrumors 6502a

    Sep 27, 2003
    Or, OS X will only run on "Mac Certified" hardware. Apple could end up allowing 3rd parties (like Sony) to design and build systems that are licensed to run OS X. (Is that what the VAIO engineers are doing over in Cupertino right now?)

    Afterall, Apple is a software company. :rolleyes:
  9. macrumors 6502a


    Nov 6, 2003
    You don't hear that every day.
  10. macrumors 6502a

    Apr 9, 2003
    Yet more reason to buy another PowerPC machine before the switch to Intel.
    DRM is fine if all it will do on the intel mac is prevent OSX from booting on non Apple Hardare, if that's the case then nothing has changed because that's where we are now.

    However the implications of using the Intel Infineon Hardware based DRM is unsettling because of how much could be controlled.
  11. macrumors regular


    May 23, 2004
    Minnetonka, MN USA
  12. macrumors G3


    Aug 30, 2003
    A TPM is little more than a dongle absent a PKI. I wish that there were public CAs in place to certify these things, this would be a really useful tool for validating data.
  13. macrumors 604


    Aug 9, 2002
    Springfield, OR (Home of the Simpsons)
    Or even better wait for the Intel stuff to come out and if you still want the PowerPC hardware buy it then because it will be stupifyingly cheap when everyones dumping their old hardware to buy the new stuff.
  14. macrumors 68040


    Jan 7, 2004
    Purcellville, VA
    This whole issue is a joke, just as it was a joke when everybody got so paranoid about Microsoft doing the same thing to Windows.

    No OS vendor is going to prevent users from buying, developing and installing applications. It's not going to mandate that every document you open be signed, and it's not going to phone the FBI if your mom brings over a CD with some game she purchased last month.

    For the ordinary user, the worst that this will do is restrict what kind of hardware you can install the OS onto. Given that Apple has already made that intention clear, it should come as no surprise.

    It will allow some high-end apps, that currently ship with encryption dongles (for copy protection) to no longer have to ship hardware dongles with the software.

    All the other aspects of OS-level DRM will only come into play in a corporate environment, where IT personnel want to restrict their computers to only run corporate-approved apps. Which is, and always has been, their right.

    Every time someone talks about DRM, they immediately jump to this "end of the world" scenario. While it may be technically possible for this to happen, it won't. No company is going to make a move that will cause them to lose their entire user base. Even Microsoft wouldn't be stupid enough to release an OS that makes their entire customer base throw out everything they've ever purchased.

    My prediction is that Apple will use this feature for one and only one purpose - to keep Mac OS off of non-Apple hardare. Maybe (and I think this is a long shot) use it in an optional security system that IT departments can use for restricting corporate computers. If we end up seeing anything beyond this, I will be incredibly surprised.
  15. macrumors G5


    May 2, 2002
    OK--ASAP. Maybe IBM can help, FWIW.

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