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Discussion in 'Site and Forum Feedback' started by ConnYoungy, Apr 13, 2012.

  1. macrumors regular

    #1
    Come on now, really?

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    r.j.s

    #2
    What's the problem?
     
  3. macrumors demi-god

    GGJstudios

    #3
    From What do I do about annoying ads? in the Forum FAQ:
     
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    Mr. Retrofire

    #4
    MacKeeper is scareware.
     
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    FloatingBones

    #5
    I don't see it. The ads are hardly sensational; they just say what the product does. Further, MacKeeper provides a whole suite of functionality besides antivirus protection. I'm not a customer, but it looks like a decent set of utilities and has good reviews.
     
  6. macrumors demi-god

    GGJstudios

    #6
    MacKeeper is pretty much useless. Its app deletion function is not effective, its antivirus function is unnecessary, and its maintenance functions are not only unnecessary, they're potentially destructive if not used properly.

    You don't need "cleaner" or "maintenance" apps to keep your Mac running well, and some of these apps can do more harm than good. Some remove files/folders or unused languages or architectures, which does nothing more than free up some drive space, with the risk of deleting something important in the process.

    These apps will not make your Mac run faster or more efficiently, since having stuff stored on a drive does not impact performance, unless you're running out of drive space. Some of these apps delete caches, which can hurt performance, rather than help it, since more system resources are used and performance suffers while each cache is being rebuilt.

    Many of these tasks should only be done selectively to troubleshoot specific problems, not en masse as routine maintenance.

    Mac OS X does a good job of taking care of itself, without the need for 3rd party software. Among other things, it has its own maintenance scripts that run silently in the background on a daily, weekly and monthly basis, without user intervention.

     
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    FloatingBones

    #7
    Interesting, but I see no point in arguing the merits of this software in this forum.

    Is it your position that MR should be blocking these ads? If so, please make your case!
     
  8. macrumors demi-god

    GGJstudios

    #8
    There are plenty of threads in this forum where its merits, or lack thereof, have been discussed.
    I said nothing about the ads, other than to quote MR's statement about advertising. Just because something is advertised doesn't mean it's advisable to buy it.
     
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    FloatingBones

    #9
    Why discuss them in this forum at all?

    Perhaps. But why is this discussion on-topic for this forum?
     
  10. macrumors demi-god

    GGJstudios

    #10
    You're the one who brought it up by discussing the merits of the app, rather than the ads. I simply responded.
     
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    FloatingBones

    #11
    My point was to challenge the notion that the program was [simply] scareware. It is not. I had not imagined that anyone would extrapolate and start a general discussion of the program's merits in this forum; it doesn't seem like the right place for that discussion. Please stop.
     
  12. macrumors demi-god

    GGJstudios

    #12
    There's nothing wrong with responding to posts been made. If you'll notice, my first post only addressed the ads themselves, with no mention of the app's merits. How can you change the direction of the thread by posting about the app itself and not expect anyone to respond? If others are looking for information about the app, they may find this thread in a search. I would be negligent not to respond to a positive statement about the app without offering additional information that could benefit the reader, especially considering that, by your own admission, you don't have personal experience with this app.
     
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    FloatingBones

    #13
    Because I didn't change the direction. My point was that the advertisements are not scareware. Noting that the majority of components of the product are not even anti-virus is a simple way of demonstrating that.

    Aha. You seem concerned that someone naive reader would stumble on this discussion about the advertising and mistake it for a discussion of the merits of the app. If that is your concern, the simple (and diplomatic) solution is to simply provide a reference to threads that do discuss the tradeoffs of MacKeeper. What thread (or threads) here or elsewhere provides a good discussion/review of this app?

    Do you agree that characterizing the MacKeeper advertisements as "scareware" is inappropriate?
     
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    Mr. Retrofire

    #14
    No, never!
     
  15. macrumors member

    Apple2

    #15
    I installed the demo version on an old machine to see what all the hype was about. Not only did it offer features that could destroy the user's computer, it wouldn't let you do anything without confirmation. It wouldn't even let you delete it! It's a paid Mac assassin!
     
  16. macrumors demi-god

    GGJstudios

    #16
    Others have had problems uninstalling it, as well. The most effective method for complete app removal is manual deletion:
     
  17. macrumors newbie

    #17
    MacKeeper Adverts

    Many thanks for the interesting discussion on macKipper, I thought that there was something fishy going on when I was unable to find a price for it, secondly it failed to appear on a few obvious searches. Lastly thank you for the help on the way to delete all of an app's files. Even after thirty very odd years in computers one can learn something new, silly thing to say considering the ever changing nature of the business. Still, many thanks.

    Kind regards,
    Peter
     
  18. Cesoca, May 24, 2012
    Last edited by a moderator: May 24, 2012

    macrumors member

    #18
    Don't dare to come here to defend these friggin' bastards. I've been unable to run Safari thanks to them. Look:



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  19. macrumors demi-god

    GGJstudios

    #19
    If you have it installed, uninstall it. The most effective method for complete app removal is manual deletion:
    If you're just getting ads, use an ad-blocker.
     
  20. macrumors member

    #20
    It's not a matter of uninstalling the app or blocking the adverts, I had already uninstalled it, there's no trace of it in any search I have made. I couldn't care less for the adverts either, right, they're annoying, but since you don't click on them nothing happens. What I'm talking about is a disruption of unrelated activities while browsing the web caused by the interference of Zeobit intrusive techniques to sell their stuff. Have you seen the image I posted? There's no cancel or exit option. It's criminal and I don't know why Apple still permits such crap being sold in its App store.
     
  21. macrumors demi-god

    GGJstudios

    #21
    I agree that such advertising is obnoxious. Have you confirmed the popup is from the browser and not from anything remaining on your drive? Can you post a link to a site where that popup occurred? There should be a way to block it.
     
  22. macrumors member

    #22
    If memory doesn't fail me, it was a porn site that I even didn't have time to peruse (something related to hot hairy blokes). However, such behaviour is not an exclusivity of these kind of sites. While accessing Ynetnews, an Israeli news site, and clicking on any given article in order to read it, I have noticed that another page containing an advert is launched, as if it were aggregated to the page I intended to read. Have I made myself clear? ;)
     
  23. macrumors demi-god

    GGJstudios

    #23
    The point is, if you can identify a site so I can see the popup, I can check to see if I can block it and show you how. If you don't care about it, I certainly don't, as I never see such popups.
     
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    FloatingBones

    #24
    I believe you have misconstrued the point I was making. The OP objected to the ads, but never gave any details. In this message, Mr. Retrofire claimed these ads were scareware, but he never explained why.

    This forum is for feedback about the site. There are far better forums for the discussion of MacKeeper than this particular forum. I see no point in continuing the discussion about this Mac app -- or any other Mac app -- here. Do you?
     

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