Mac's with Yellow dog pre-installed ???

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  1. Platform macrumors 68030

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    Just intrested: Has anyone bought a machine from like Terra soft......Apple machines with OS X and yellow dog pre-installed with Apple warranty. :eek:

    Just hold down the Option key during boot and it will boot to OS X...if not you get yellow dog :D

    And the boot thing is that hard to do if you are installing linux after you got a mac so you get the dual boot :confused:

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  2. varmit macrumors 68000

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    No, the dual boot isn't that hard to do yourself. Use OS X utility during the OS X install, and make two partitions. Load up OS X on the first one, then put in the Yellow Dog disk and install it, and have it write the MBR so you can dual boot. Again, you have to start from scratch if you only have one partition right now.
     
  3. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    Is Yellow Dog more difficult to install than most Linux distros, or even easier? I wonder because Macs have so much less hardware diversity....

    Anyway, it seems like it would be nice to get such a computer with YDL pre-installed, although I'd like to be the one who makes partition size choices. :)

    I wonder...do they also pre-configure Mac-on-Linux, so that the OS X environment can be started up without leaving YDL? I hope Mac-on-Mac gets more development so that you could do it in reverse. I would definitely keep YDL on my computer, or some PPC distro, if I could run it in a virtual machine.
     
  4. Platform thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Oh OK........thanks a lot ;) :cool:
     
  5. Mechcozmo macrumors 603

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    Holding Option invokes Open Firmware's ability to show all bootable devices.
     
  6. risc macrumors 68030

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    I install the latest version of Yellow Dog on my Power Mac G5, the install was painless _BUT_ hardware support was very lacking, no sound, no acceleration in X11 (Radeon 9800 XT), all in all it was a horrible experience when using X11, if all you want is a server go for it I say, but if you want a usable Linux desktop all I can say is GFL ;)
     
  7. Mechcozmo macrumors 603

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    X11 comes with Tiger and Panther too.... so you can use Fink with it.Linkety to Fink.
     
  8. godbout macrumors regular

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    If you would like you can also do it another way... through linux... It is pretty simple and you can find exactly how to do it many different places on the net. Essentially, you modify the yaboot conf file. What I did was have yaboot ask me which OS to use on startup and if I can't decide in 15 sec then it chooses OSX (it is YDL by default). Make sure that you update the bootstrap partition after you are done with your modification... you will know that you have done this when you get the line "blessing this computer with holy penguin pee" :D

    Sorry that I cannot be more specific but it has been several months since I have done this. Oh and you have to start from scratch because you do need different partitions you will need a bootstrap, linux swap disk, linux partition, OSX partition (I think in that order).

    Also, right now I would not reccomend linux for the new PB's because there are still some issues that have to be worked out... Like getting audio and the trackpad working!! Plus there is no airport (or there was none when i last looked but I know that our penguiny brethren are working on it)
     
  9. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    Do you have a link for this distro? I couldn't find it by Google. Unless I'm being dumb and that's short for a major distro name...but it is not normalyl referred to that way. But I can't think of which it would be.
    :confused:

    It seems like the support of YDL varies greatly by hardware...it sounds like iti isn't half bad on the notebooks.
     
  10. mduser63 macrumors 68040

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    I don't think GFL is an abbreviation for a distro ;).
     
  11. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    Ohhhhhhhhhhhh! *feels stupid*

    [​IMG]
     
  12. powerbook911 macrumors 68040

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    Does Yellow Dog Linux support the Airport Extreme cards? I might put it on a Mac Mini. It seems a bit expensive though (Yellow dog that is).
     
  13. Dm84 macrumors regular

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    I installed Mandriva LE 2005 last week on my PB. I find it to be much better than Yellow Dog in that it is much easier to configure and use. There is also a graphical RPM installer, which means less screwing around in bash. I think there is no Airport support though.
     
  14. risc macrumors 68030

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    You think 0c is expensive?

    http://www.linuxiso.org/distro.php?distro=12
     
  15. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    Just to answer my own question, it seems like they do.... hmmm....intriguing. :)
     
  16. kalisphoenix macrumors 65816

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    YDL sucks, imho. It's honestly one of the worst distributions out there as far as hardware support, configuration, speed, et cetera. Debian or Gentoo is (imho) a much better choice.
     
  17. godbout macrumors regular

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    Which PB do you have? Does Mandriva support audio and the scrolling trackpad?

    I am obviously interested in these compatability issues with the Rev. D Powerbook, if I could just get decent support on this thing (airport included) then I would be all set :D
     
  18. kalisphoenix macrumors 65816

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    Yeah, they do, and it actually works really well.
     
  19. Lazyhound macrumors regular

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    Does anyone know what you would need to set this up on your own (EDIT:) with a different distro?
     
  20. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    Yes: Yaboot -- how to enclosed. :)
     
  21. Nermal Moderator

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    I bought one (an iBook) back in 2003. I didn't buy it for Linux, I just got it because the computers were cheaper than Apple NZ sold them for. Unfortunately they don't sell outside the US anymore (but, on the other hand, NZ pricing is a lot better now too, some products are now cheaper in NZ than US imports).
     
  22. GFLPraxis macrumors 604

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    Eh?
     
  23. godbout macrumors regular

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    GFL=Good F**king Luck
     
  24. kalisphoenix macrumors 65816

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    Bah. A working Linux desktop is as easy to get as a working OS X desktop. You just have to know how to read and have some interest in actually controlling how your computer functions...
     
  25. kamper macrumors newbie

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    You're usually bound for trouble when combining ati cards and free *nix. :(
     

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