MacSlash Domain

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  1. arn
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    arn

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    From MacSlash.com

    You have probably noticed by now that the URL www.macslash.com now points to a generic Dotster page. We are attempting to get in touch with Dotster, but they have been unable or unwilling to reply. We are not certain at this time whether the situation is malicious or not (i.e., squatting), but without word from Dotster, we have nothing else to go on. If the domain has not been stolen, then it has been registered in bad faith. We're an established business and media presence, and anyone who registered it, no matter how innocently, is a squatter.

    In the interim, we have registered www.macslash.net, and are hoping that will be up by tomorrow or Friday. We would like to thank Charlie Ruggiero and John Painter, who are helping to set up alternative domains (macslash.org and macslash.info, respectively).

    For more information and updates, please email us at macslash@earthlink.net or call Ben Stanfield, Executive Editor, 270-881-0680. Thanks to everyone who has contacted us already.

    We are hoping to have this issue resolved ASAP. We apologize for the inconvenience.

    Sincerely,
    The MacSlash crew
     
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    Rocketman

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    I had two domains squatted. I registered them through a service and instead of having my domain registered to me as the form stated, and billed to me, they registered the domains themselves and later offered to sell them back to me for "costs" in this case about $370 each less than 2 months later. The original offer was a fee slightly reduced from network solutions prices. I did not know how to respond or resolve it since domains seem to have no clear oversight authority except for nameing conventions. If there is someone with authority to correct this sort of fraud, post it.

    Rocketman
     
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    pwfletcher

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    Cybersquatting

    I have contacted Ben Stanfield of macslash.com and have offered to help him recover his domain name free of charge for all of the good information that he has provided. We should be able to get him back up and running fairly soon.

    Patrick Fletcher
    Fletcher & Associates
    http://www.internetdisputes.org
     
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    Hemingray

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    I dunno what you consider authority, but go have a look at www.fraud.org and report them (if they're a business) to www.bbb.org . You can also contact the FBI on matters of financial crimes (including fraud).
     
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    britboy

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    Re: Cybersquatting


    That's very generous of you. Good luck.
     
  6. macrumors newbie

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    Whois says it is registered to:

    Vicente Peiro Crespo
    Chiva , 23 , 27
    Valencia, Valencia 46018
    ES

    Administrative Contact:
    Peiro Crespo, Vicente merc-net@merc-net.com
    Chiva , 23 , 27
    Valencia, Valencia 46018
    ES
    34-963847753

    Technical Contact:
    Peiro Crespo, Vicente merc-net@merc-net.com
    Chiva , 23 , 27
    Valencia, Valencia 46018
    ES
    34-963847753

    Created on: 28-MAY-02
    Expires on: 28-MAY-03
    Last Updated on: 28-MAY-02
     
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    Grokgod

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    This is an injustice and must be righted!

    ~ Pwfletcher. I commend and applaud your action taken to help.
    Get those men and right the wrong. We are all behind you in this, I am sure.
    Good Luck, I am certain we will all be lookign forward to hearing its outcome!
     
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    pimentoLoaf

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    For more tools to find out about the situation, run on over to Phaster.Com.
     
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    LucasLand

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    stop whining!

    if that name is so important, then you should have registered it a long time ago. I'm tired about hearing people moan & groan because they were too stupid to register it in the first place or upset because someone beat them too it. Next time you start a business, why don't you register the domain before you announce what your company or product will be called.
     
  10. macrumors newbie

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    Re: stop whining!

    foofan I gues you have no clue what Macslash.com is. They have been up and running for ages using www.macslash.com and someone comes along and hijacks it. Try getting informed before you open your mouth and make an ass of yourself next time.
     
  11. macrumors member

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    read foofan - read!

    He did have it registered! Haven't you ever seen the MacSlash website? It's been around for a couple of years!

    Before you go spouting off like an idiot, make sure you have the facts straight!
     
  12. macrumors member

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    don't mean to sound unsympathetic but...

    hahahahahaha...

    9 times out of ten this sort of thing is the result of someone not properly registering, or failing to pay their bill, or something like that. we'll see.
     
  13. macrumors regular

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    **** foofan

    Foofan, ****. It _was_ registered to them. You never would have been able to go to macslash.com if it wasn't.

    The people that have it now probably had the registration queued so that as soon as it lapsed it became theirs. Regardless of how they did it, it's still in bad faith. Microsoft had the same thing happen to them, they were just lucky that the guy that had queued it was a big MS fan and was trying to prevent something like what happened to MacSlash from happening to MS.

    Should the guys at Macslash been more vigilant about domain expiration (if that was indeed the case)? Yes, but your rant still shows you have no concept of the registration process. Do everyone a favor and keep quiet about things you don't understand.

    psxndc
     
  14. macrumors regular

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    Congrats foofan

    Congrats foofan, it looks like you got two people (me and toby) to sign up just to flame your @$$.
     
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    LucasLand

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    didn't pay their bill

    if they lost their domain because they forgot to reregister it or forgot to pay their bill, then they have only themselves to blame. Only an idiot would forget to pay their bill on the most important part of their website.

    Remember this!
    YOU SNOOZE, YOU LOSE!!!!
     
  16. macrumors newbie

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    Please tell me, foofan, How they are supposed to retain their domain, if some other idiot was in the registration queue after them.
     
  17. macrumors newbie

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    Yes the old "You snooze, you lose" rule. I beleive the legal defense term is "Tibi somnus, tibi zamia."

    Are you still in grade school foofan? Try pulling that stunt with any company and see how far it gets you. You painted yourself into a corner and instead of admitting you made a mistake you are just being a dumbass.
     
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    BobVB

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    Re: don't mean to sound unsympathetic but...

    hardly - the problem is you assume the person you've registered it through has done their job.

    I have a site I've paid the registration for years in advance but about 2 months ago it just stopped working. THEY had forgotten to renew it. Fortunately no one was looking to steal it, so they were able to 're-register' it and I have it back now.

    I mean, why would anyone not have their site paid out a couple years ahead just to be sure it never goes away? The cost is insignificant compared with the potential hassle.
     
  19. macrumors newbie

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    i bet foofans next quote will be "finder's keepers loser's weepers" what a freaking moron
     
  20. macrumors 6502

    me hate windows

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    It seems to work now.


    (edit: yay, my 250th post, halfway to a 'tar:) )
     
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    LucasLand

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    ....

    Yawn....
     
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    pimentoLoaf

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    Interesting...

    I can still get MacSlash on my home computer. I looked around noontime CDT and just a few moments ago.

    But three hours ago at a cable-net access sales kiosk at a local mall, they had the Dotster page up.

    So... some can still reach it, while some can't.

    Why is this?
     
  23. macrumors newbie

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    Louts

    Here's "Christine" at Dotster Customer Support had to say: "The previous owner of the domain allowed it to expire, so it was able to be registered anew by the new owner through the Namewinner service (www.namewinner.com). It is not illegal to register expired domains, and the new owner should be contacted if the original owner wants to get the domain back."

    The "Namewinner" service is their own, of course.

    By early evening EST the Macslash.com site was off the air totally and the csupport@dotster.com address that worked earlier was bouncing messages. Interesting. I would guess that they heard from a few pissed off people.
     
  24. macrumors newbie

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    Hmm... I do not know if this is related or not, but I am sure someone will tell me.

    mactheknife.com also takes you to a dotster page. Maybe it all one big consipiracy funded by Bill Gates to get rid of all Mac-centric websites so he can pretend that Apple doesn't exist. After all, if it's not on the web, it's not there, right? :rolleyes:

    And, in my own defense, I wil say that I have not been to mactheknife in a long time, so it might have gone dead months ago, and I am simply unaware. I just find it interesting that both seem to lead to dotster. Hmm...
     
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    marco114

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    MAC MALL STOLD MAC SLASH?

    when I go to MacSlash.com it brings up MacMall's site...!!! something is screwy here!

    marco
     

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