mail graphics open on pc as separate file

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  1. meta-ghost macrumors regular

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    say,
    i'm sending emails with a signature that has a graphic pasted in (my company logo). when a pc user gets it, it's not viewable in the email but in a separate document. how can i get it to stay/view in the email? thanks.
     
  2. Gee macrumors 65816

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    I think it depends if the person receiving your email is viewing it as HTML or as plain text - if it's text, all the pretty pics will be removed. It's not something you can do anything about - either they set their email up to view HTML or they don't....Not very helpful I know.
     
  3. meta-ghost thread starter macrumors regular

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    what are the greater advantages/disavantages of a pc user receiving text vs html email?
     
  4. slowtreme macrumors 6502

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    If you are using HTML and gfx imbedded (I think), your gfx should stay inline. If you are using RTF, or gfx are being attached not imbedded it will separate the files.

    OR you are sending to almost any corporate environment which now separates files from text for security purposes.
     
  5. Gee macrumors 65816

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    HTML looks nicer (you can pretty much do anything you can with a web page), but text is safer because there's less chance of a virus embedded it it somewhere, or someone logging stats through the graphics...
     
  6. deryk macrumors regular

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    I prefer text emails. I travel a great deal for work and I am not reimbursed for high speed internet connections, so I choose to do dial up. HTML emails take too long to load for my preference.

    Deryk
     
  7. meta-ghost thread starter macrumors regular

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    sorry for trying to spell this out.. in panther mail prefs/composing i have the choice of rich text or plain text. are you to stay away from rich text? also, what about the menu item in mail: edit/attachment/"always send windows friendly attachements"? what's gfx? thanks in advance.
     
  8. MisterMe macrumors G4

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    Rich text is ASCII text that includes inline text format codes. These codes are not executable. There is nothing dangerous about rich text. HTML mail is not dangerous because it formats your text, it is dangerous because it can link to any file on the Internet without passing through ordinary email security. The annoying graphic border that takes so long to download may be a GIF or JPEG attachment. It may also be on a server anywhere in the world. Basically, HTML-mail on your computer may have any or all of the features of a web page on your computer. "Windows friendly" has to do with how you encode attachments. "gfx" is short for "graphics."
     
  9. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    If you send your e-mail as plain text, then your PC associate will *definitely* see the graphic as an attachment and not as an inline graphic. I tried making a rich text e-mail myself and sending it to myself, and opening it in my webmail client, and I saw my graphic as an attachment too (albeit located correctly within the e-mail at my insertion point). But I also noticed that my signature showed as plain text. Mail apparently converts rich text to plain text if there are no formatting options used (this was in the help file for mail.app).

    Maybe try this workaround: make sure that you have a font or style change within your signature, to force the message into rich text -- i.e. make your name bold or larger or in italics or a different font or something. I'm trying this to see if it solves the image problem too, but for some reason the mails I'm sending aren't getting back to myself.... :(
     
  10. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    But isn't he talking about the mail *he's* sending out of mail.app, not the mail he's receiving -- so it probably isn't in HTML format, since mail.app doesn't offer that.
     
  11. slowtreme macrumors 6502

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    Well plain text is just that, you can't place your images in them, only as an attachment to open later. So if you send a Plan text email you can be sure it's going to look pretty much the way you sent it, PLAIN :)

    Rich text (I called it rtf) lets you place images in your email, but might not always show the same on the other end. You could try turning on the "send windows friendly" option, I dont know if it will help your friend see your mail differently.

    Mail.app does not create HTML email, but it displays it fine... unless you want to forward an HTML email, then it breaks. This is nice for formatting, but can increase mail sizes an average of 50% just for one or two lines of text, nasty for dial up.

    So I'm reading your posts again and I wonder, are you really seeing your image in the email, or as an attachement at the bottom (sometimes called inline image viewing)? Some email apps allow you to view multiple images as if there were stacked in an email (below your text), and others force you to open them seperatly.

    Which email app are you using?

    gfx was my shorthand for Graphics
     
  12. MisterMe macrumors G4

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    The definition of HTML-mail is the same whether Mail.app can generate it or not. Of course it cannot, which I regard as a very good thing.
     
  13. meta-ghost thread starter macrumors regular

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    thanks all for taking this on. i'm using the mac mail app.[i can see it in my mail, even when i compose] this has to do with mail i send out being read by the pc recipient and having ONLY the graphic portion of my signature coming in as a separate doc. this isn't a corporate environment at the receiving end.

    one other thing that is curious. no matter what the resolution of the logo that is pasted into the signature - when i print a composed email the quality of the logo is crappy (at least thin text reads poorly).
     
  14. meta-ghost thread starter macrumors regular

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    i put one word into italics but it doesn't seem to have helped.
     
  15. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    When my e-mails finally arrived in my Yahoo inbox, I saw the same thing. :(

    If someone from your office who uses Outlook and has such a signature sends you an e-mail, and you quote it and send it back to them, so that the sig is an inline quote, do they still see it correctly, or does the picture disappear or become an attachment?

    If it survives back to the PC directly, maybe the (ugly) workaround is to make the signature on an Outlook PC, send it as e-mail to yourself, and then copy and paste it into the signature requester....
     
  16. jsw Moderator emeritus

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    FWIW:

    I was recently trying to send images in an email to my brother at work. For whatever reason, even though it used to work (sending embedded images), it stopped working (company probably added more mail filtering). Nothing unusual about the images - simple JPEG screen shots in the body of the email. He just didn't get them except as attachments.

    After reading the posts above, I decided to enable "Edit->Attachments->Always Send Windows Friendly Attachments", which I'd never seen before (that option really should be in Mail->Preferences...", not hidden like that).

    Now, it all works fine. Thanks for the tip!
     
  17. meta-ghost thread starter macrumors regular

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    the solution is.... entourage and html

    well i tried everything and am close to giving up on mail. i set up entourage, choose html when composing and it works fine.

    i hesitate in going there cause i like my apple address book. i can sync with my phone, i send faxes through page sender with the same address book. i don't know what this will mean using entourage...
     

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