MAJOR 12" PB problem with sound!

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  1. bb0ys macrumors member

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    I just got my 12" powerbook and I really love it. However, there is one serious flaw with it. Every few minutes I hear a POP from internal the speakers. I haven't been able to figure out what its related to (keystrokes, time periods, etc). It's really bothering me and I don't know why. Anyone know of a fix for this? Does apple know about this? I've read that it has to do with the sound sytem going to sleep, and then waking up and the speakers pop, but they pop even when no sound is being made. HELLPPP
    Thanks =)
     
  2. JSRockit macrumors 6502a

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    Re: MAJOR 12" PB problem with sound!

    Mine doesn't have this problem...sorry.
     
  3. mymemory macrumors 68020

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    That is a mal funcition of the digital to analog converter. Ask for a replacement.

    Those kind of things are (were) common in the first Protools systems. That is a digital distortion, may be a condenser is broken inside the unit or the audio chip have some problem with the incoming voltage.

    Do this, re install the entire software first, it may be a related to some Prefernce in OSX, as I'm not expert in OSX I can't tell you too much about it, if the problem persist is hardware related.

    As your computer is brand new it makes me think it is hardware, it happends!.

    Rememeber 17"and 12" are brand new logic boards configurations are you are testing a brand new model.

    They will ahve to replace the entire logic board and even the entire Powerbook would be easier for them.

    If the problem is hard to detect for them well... ltes hope they say there is a problem.
     
  4. alex_ant macrumors 68020

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    On the laptops, the speakers go to sleep after a certain period of time, and then the next time a sound is played, they will make that popping sound as they wake up to play it (rather than waking up before it is played). It's a bug, but I'm not sure if it's in hardware or software. It's been there for a long time (since 10.1.1 at least). You can make it less annoying by turning the volume down, or using an external audio interface if that's an option.
     
  5. Totalshock macrumors member

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    The same thing seems to be happening to my new PB 12. I've noticed it only happens on here when I'm on battery power, and always precedes events where a sound is played (ie: an e-mail arriving, or an IM coming in.) It happens, though, whether or not the system is muted. If I get an e-mail message, and the system is muted, I know because my speakers pop for no reason.

    It only seems to happen with system events... if I listen to tunes in iTunes, or listen to a radio station over the Internet, there's no popping related to them starting up or playing.

    Annoying... but not tragic.

    Ah... I see Alex has an answer, and a very logical one for why it happens when on battery power (when I assume the speakers "go to sleep" must faster.)
     
  6. Foxer macrumors 65816

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    Mine too

    I was just about to write that I have no such problem, but i thought i'd boot the thing up and check. Sure enough, system events (i.e., when it seitches from the grey apple (I miss the happy mac still!) to the OSx screen and before sounds.

    What to do?
     
  7. alset macrumors 65816

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    Has anyone gone to an Apple Store with questions about this? I don't have the 12" AI, but I might just go ask for you. I really wanna know what this is about.

    Also, I have that problem sometimes with headphones on my iBook when I work with pro audio apps. I always just ignored it, but it seems your pops must be worse.

    Dan
     
  8. Totalshock macrumors member

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    Believe me, if they had Apple Stores to go to ask about it here in Canada, I'd be down to them like a shot. Unfortunately, my local retailer is pretty much useless on stuff like this. It hasn't really bothered me that much, to be frank about it... but I'd sure like to know if this is an issue on Apple's radar screen, and if so, if there's anything that can be done about it or will be done about it.

    But in the meantime, I'll just enjoy my new little lapwarmer.
     
  9. MightyB macrumors member

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    12" PB "popping speakerss"

    I have the same problem.

    seems to only happen on battery power, and usually "pops" right before it plays a system sound.
     
  10. stuckwithme247 macrumors regular

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    Re: 12" PB "popping speakerss"

    happens for every sound to me. like on ichat when no one signs on for a while and then someone does it makes a pop. this is crap
     
  11. JSRockit macrumors 6502a

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    Ut oh...It is when on battery power. I never noticed it before, but I just went to battery and forced a system sound and it popped before the sound. Guess I do have this problem as well. What do we do now?
     
  12. RandomDeadHead macrumors 6502

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    um, guys. I have an iMac g4 and a eMac at the office that so the same thing. Its not your alubooks, its OS 10.
     
  13. backspinner macrumors 6502a

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    If it's only on battery power, then it could be power saving related. Try the application "keep soud awake" (search for it on versiontracker). It solved sound related problems on my PowerBook, but consumes more energy...
     
  14. Tom Light macrumors member

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    Two eMacs...

    ...a DP 1.42 and a 12" PB here, and I have *yet* to hear the popping sound you describe.

    Of course, I can't hear my wife when she talks to me, either... ;)

    Tom
     
  15. bb0ys thread starter macrumors member

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    Tom, try it for us

    Tom, can you try to reproduce this on your 12" PB please? Run it off of battery power and leave it alone for a few minutes. Make sure 'system sounds' is on in the prefernces. Then, do something that would cause a system sound (drag something to the trash maybe). Let us know if you get a pop right before it plays the sound.

    Can someone talk with apple about this? I'd rather not call and start my limited 90day phone support =/

    Thanks!
     
  16. RBMaraman macrumors 65816

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    Same thing happens on my brother's 17" iMac with Apple Pro Speakers. As soon as I noticed it, I phoned Apple.

    Apple reps immediately knew the problem: OS X. According to the Apple people i've spoken to, OS X has many audio problems. Just learn to live with it. Hopefully they will have all the problems worked out once Panther comes out.
     
  17. JSRockit macrumors 6502a

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    Ut oh...I thought OS X was supposed to be superior?
     
  18. wolfywolfbits macrumors member

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    The TI books have the same problem. It is because the on battery power the sound system goes to sleep.

    If you try it on mains power you shouldn't find it.

    The problem with OSX is that it doesn't let you turn it off!!! The KeepSoundAlive (?can't remember name exactly) app does fix it. But your PB will use fractionally more power.
     
  19. Tommy! macrumors regular

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    I have had an eMac, an FP iMac, and a Yaoming Book. All of them pop, however, the eMac nad iMac pop only once or twice (after sleeping, before launching itunes, starting up) The YaoBook, however, pops constantly! I feel all of ur guys' pain! Mine does it mostly when using AIM, however other stuff makes it pop too... When I have stickey keys on, it pops a whole lot (probably because of the interface sounds associated with then) It's definetly unacceptable.
     
  20. spishack macrumors member

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    Yep

    Same problem here. New 12in PB. Gonna try that keep awake program.
     
  21. bellis1 macrumors 6502

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    Additional sound quirk

    I have not checked my 12" to see if it pops but I have another problem which is driving me crazy. The sound balance keeps changing and going towards the right. I can't figure out what is doing it. Maybe it is a keystroke or a problem caused by some other application. Has anyone else noticed this problem?
     
  22. KingArthur macrumors regular

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    It is a NEW OS. Remember, Windows is still built on some of the same technology as Win3.1! Mostly built on NT technology which has been out for a long time. The OS is superior, but it has bugs which are steadily being worked out. Remember, the last thing a programmer CAN do is optimise code. People were screaming for the OS, so Apple had to release it and has been making enhancements and optimizing it ever since at as fast of a pace as possible. I write programs, and I know that although optimization of code saves you tons of space and can provide MAJOR speed enhancement etc, it takes forever. And rewritting tons of code can be very difficult when you are trying to maintain compatability. Give the OS a couple of years. I bet OS X.5 is going to be awesome. Hell, we are only comming up on essentially a version 1.3 for OSX. We were at version 9.2.2 for classic OS. Just give it time and we will see the benefits soon enough.
     
  23. JSRockit macrumors 6502a

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    You mean when Apple jacks us for another $129 for OS 10.3?
     
  24. Stinkythe1 macrumors regular

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    Sorry to bring up an old thread but mine started doing this perhaps a month ago. I usually only notice it when I'm not playing anything and maybe ever once in a while, someone IM's me and it pops, but today I was playing WoW and it would pop, then be silent for about 3 seconds then the sound would come back on.

    Do you still think it is the OS? I'm running 10.4.5
     
  25. stuckwithme247 macrumors regular

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    Are you running battery power?
     

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