first off i am not intending to start a flame war. These are only my opinions.... and put them in perspective .... the opinions of a newbie. Feel free to disagree and prove me wrong... educate if any of this rant is bull! Any how onto the rant! I am a little bit annoyed that certain people in here when comparing PC's with Mac's (which they really shouldn't do as its kinda like comparing apples with oranges) [no pun intended!]. Anyway their argument usually goes something like .." well Pc's are crap like... they may be faster and cheaper than the mac but they are as unstable as s#1t... ask a pc to do photoshop and its crashes in 0 - 60... this is just typical of an x86... a mac is more stable and reliable etc..]. First and foremost..... stop bashing the X86 architecture. Whether we (mac lovers) like it or not .... PC's are faster. Period. An athlon... which is more RISC like than CISC www.arstechnica.com in architecture tends to be equal if not faster than a Mac G4 at similar clock speeds. Now in recent tests (e.g. go to barefeats etc... and www.geek.com )they compare and show that the mac is slower in dual processor form than the latest P4 and AMD XP's running in single processor form. These tests are not stupid SPEC int or rubbish like that ... they are the real deal ... benchmarks of applications that we use in the real world on a daily basis like MAYA, Cubase etc.... here the mac HARDWARE is shown not to be as fast as what the x86 platform (and before anyone burns me to a cinder... these tests are in general running the same version of software and code on each platform. softwareX 4.5 x86 versus softwareX 4.5 mac). Now i know that it is like waving a red flag to a bull saying anyof this in a MAC forum. But i like reading here and i find the people in here very open minded and i felt the need to say that we should stop associating crashing, falling over apps etc.. with the x86 platform. X86 is fine... maybe great becase at the moment it is in the performance driving seat. BUT ...It is only a tool. Its the operator of the tool that counts. Windows. the most bloated piece of rubbish. By all means slag this off. I use macs and x86 every day and find that both are just as stable as the other... why.... well i use red hat linux on x86 and the incredible OS X on the mac. in the hypothetical scenario that windows were to run on mac (heaven forbid .... anyway would never happen ) you would find the mac falling on its arse. Again just to reiterate... all platforms (hardware wise are great) ... its the operator that makes the difference. Linux is fantastic on x86 and G4. But it does not have iTunes, Aqua or any of the other fantastic stuff you would only get with os X. thats why i would not recommend a PC to a newbie and only a MAC... because when i compare MAC's to PC's i see OS versus OS. and in all honesty the mac wins hands down... it has the number 1 and number2 OS (IMO) all wrapped up in a nice shiny case! As one of my mates puts it.... Apple is like putting Michael Schumacher in a Ferrari (2000 season model!) it just works. Dell gives you the McClaren , technically the faster of the two but puts a drunk driver behind the wheel. OK.... start shootin me!