This is true. And I don't even know how HD-DVD expects to win the format war. The BDs can go up to 100 gigs and I've read in an interview with the CEO of insomniac that they were told the PS3 is capable of reading the quad-layer discs. And BD players, last I checked, are cheaper. But hey MS has to up their warranty and release an add-on box just to keep up with Sony is fine. At least they're capable of it. Nintendo had to release the Wii just to keep up with the PS2. I was at Circuit City last night in Salt Lake City, and they said they have 2 20 gigs. He said the 20s sell but most people don't want them. They sell the 60s as soon as they come in still. And speaking of 360 sales figures, don't forget we're seeing some deals with 299 premium systems with extras. I guess they need to raise demand. I haven't played a Wii yet, but I looked at the games lineup and I know what does or does not interest me personally. Do I need to play a game before I buy it to know if it's worth buying? Sometimes. Can I look at a list of games most of them with familiar names to know I didn't care for the previous installments of them and I won't bother this time? Yep, I sure can. I already said I plan to buy a Wii when SSBB comes out, and that wii sports looks like it'd be fun with friends. I've read numerous posts on this forum by wii owners who say the novelty of the controls wears thin after a while. That's what I figured would happen all along. I'm frankly mad as heck at Nintendo. I'll still buy a Wii because I need to play Nintendo games (certain ones) and it can play my GC games. I didn't buy a 1080p tv to play 480p games though. Thanks for my ROI, Nintendo.