Missouri Proposes Its Own Version of "Don't Say Gay" Bill

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    Wow. This is crazy. If this is taken to mean what it says, people won't even be able to talk about their parents kissing. This is insane.

    http://www.advocate.com/Politics/Missouri_Proposes_Its_Own_Version_of_Dont_Say_Gay_Bill/
     
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    Why do people keep getting more and more ******* crazy? Something has to give eventually...
     
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    Hands in ears (check)

    Therefore gay people don't exist.
     
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    This bill is gay. *Snicker*

    I just don't understand how people can think that not talking about stuff makes it better. I spent 4 years not talking about my Sexuality hoping it would fix itself. NOPE!

    :/

    Don't you get it? Something already gave way.
     
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    So tired of the *******e crowd. Even more tired that my tax dollars subsidize these cretins. You are aware that most red states are welfare states in that they get more from Wash. DC than they pay in federal taxes.
     
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    The mainstream right is getting more and more extreme in terms of social policy. It seems the goal is a society that resembles what it was in the 1800's. If the federal government doesn't become an evangelical, Christian totalitarian state then I'm starting to think lawmakers in these crazy states might start talking about succession.
     
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    You mean, "secession". ;) And I say let them. But if they secede, we let everyone out who wants out and then wall them off.
     
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    Just let me pack my stuff and cross the Mississippi River into Illinois before Missouri secedes :p
     
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    Better yet- vote these fools out of office. ;)
     
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    What's the problem? Someone please explain it to me.

    "My bill does not target a particular sexual orientation but instead says instruction or materials related to any sexual orientation should not take place in our public schools,"

    So not bringing up ANY discussion of sexual orintation is gay hating? :rolleyes:
     
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    Please tell me you're joking.
     
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    Interesting how?
     
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    I don't know, I have mixed feelings on this so I thought it better just to say it was interesting :p. I do think it's a badly worded law that could affect a lot more classes than just the sex ed ones. Still, I don't think it's right for schools to be teaching anything beyond sexual development, safety, and reproduction when it comes to sexual education.

    I'm not against homosexuality but I'm not sure how it fits into those categories outside of the usual "It's okay to be gay!" ten minute speech probably given during the development section that kids likely hear everyday anyway.
     
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    If some kid starts harassing another kid with two moms or dads in class, the teacher will not be able to address the issue, or they face jail time and fines. That is in no way OK.
     
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    The proposed bill:
    The sponsor:
    Hate IS taught.
     
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    He's from southeast Missouri. Why am I not surprised? That's where Rush Limbaugh grew up.

    I-55 through the bootheel is lined with Jesus, "pro-family" and all sorts of other offensive billboards. It's a terrible part of the state. I drove through it once, never want to do it again.

    St. Louis is the gateway to the west, but I consider Cape Girardeau the gateway to the south. Because that's the dividing line between sanity and inbred, racist, homophobic rednecks.
     
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    Right there in the wording of the bill, it allows for discussion of heterosexual activity, even though it's in scientific terms. What happens if a kid asks about gay people in sex ed class? The teacher can't talk about it or goes to jail. What message does that send? Even when I was in 7th grade in the late 70's we could talk about gay people in class with the teacher. This bill is horrible.
     
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    This is where being politically correct gets us.
     
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    Huh? How so?
     
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    The teacher can still punish the child just as he or she would when witnessing any harassment. I don't see how this law could possibly change that. Teachers don't give lectures about who was harassed and why every time a child is bullied, they deal with the children involved themselves or send them to an administrator.
     
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    This has nothing to do with political correctness.
     
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    But the the teacher is forbidden from explaining why the harassment is wrong. And yes, teachers do discuss what the root issues are, unless things have changed that drastically. When I was in grade school, a girl was being harassed on the bus on the way to school because she was black. Our teacher gave the entire class a lecture on racism. Should she have been forbidden by law to do that since some kids' parents were racist?
     
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    How freaking condescending, insulting, and just appallingly ignorant.

    Cute trick, that "human reproduction" phrase. Presumably, then, it would ban discussion of masturbation as well. No extracurricular activity? Okay, so no clubs for gays, or straight-gay alliances. Oh, and you know that gay kid who wants to commit suicide because of all the bullying? No counseling or support for him. You can't tell him that it's okay to be gay.

    Hell, even a communications class couldn't talk about how ads use sex to sell, because that's not related to reproduction.

    And I note that it says any public school, so not only primary and high school, but presumably college as well.

    Wow. Just wow. It's amazing that these people aren't tarred and feathered.
     
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    Pretend something doesn't exist and it'll go away!

    Right??? Right????

    /sarcasm

    Seriously this is a step backwards. Teach it as if its NORMAL because it IS NORMAL. Some people are born straight, others are born gay.

    Its no different than teaching that some people are born male, and some are born female.
     

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