'MobileNavigator North America' Adds Live Traffic as In App Purchase

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    Navigon's popular turn-by-turn GPS iPhone application MobileNavigator North America [App Store, $89.99] has been updated to offer live traffic information in the U.S. and Canada. The new addition, known as Navigon Traffic Live, is available via In App Purchasing for an additional one-time $19.99 fee.

    News of the addition first surfaced in mid-September at which time it was noted that the $19.99 fee for live traffic would be a promotional price for the first four weeks of availability, with the price increasing to $24.99 after that time. The feature had been scheduled for an October launch, and made its first appearance in country-specific European application versions at the very end of the month. The feature was added to the company's broader MobileNavigator Europe iPhone application last week before coming to the U.S. and Canada yesterday.

    Other minor changes available in the MobileNavigator North America update include extended searching of map areas once a destination has been entered and the ability to launch the application directly in landscape orientation.

    Article Link: 'MobileNavigator North America' Adds Live Traffic as In App Purchase
     
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    Gack you gotta pay for this update?

    Thats kinda lame, I wonder if it comes with App when you buy it new.


    I still have not bought a GPS app yet, was a toss up between this and TomTom, but now that Google is making a free GPS app I am not so sure.
     
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    No u download the app then from within the app you download the traffic update. 19.99 is a really good price concidering it's one off and tomtom have said there's will be a yearly purchase!
     
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    I downloaded the latest version last night v.1.3.0. It look over an hour to download and install the 1.5GB package.

    I tested the Navigon on the way to work today. It's definitely pretty cool. I was expecting a little more. I guess I might be spoiled with my existing Garmin Nuvi 660 stand alone GPS.

    GPS reception was good. The Navigon switched back and forth from my iPod music to a phone call I received and other pop ups from my calendar. When I turned before its recommendation it quickly re-routed me within 2 seconds.

    The speed reminder was pretty cool. I haven't used the Live Traffic yet. I didn't realize you had to purchase it within the Navigon application. It's installed now. I'll test it on the way home.

    I do miss the next street turn that is automatically displayed on my 660. In order to know when you are going to turn next, you have to touch the directional arrow on the iPhone. Then it will repeat what the next turn is.
     
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    "The feature had been scheduled for an October launch, and made its first appearance in country-specific European application versions at the very end of the month."

    I'm confused, i updated my British Isles version to 1.3 when it came out and got the post code update through extras but live traffic is not listed?

    Does any one know when its released in the UK?
     
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    Any word if 1.3 fixes the podcasts not appearing bug?

    I've been "demoing" the app via illicit means for 3 weeks... too bad there is no real App Store trial... anyway... Very happy I didn't pay for it because of the podcasts not showing up. I was just about to delete it and try something else, but maybe I'd give 1.3 a shot if it fixes the podcast bug.
     
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    +1
    Really want this feature, but all i can get is the post code thing :mad:
     
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    After Google Maps Navigation ships with iPhone OS 4.0, expect these Tom Tom and Navigon apps to get a whole lot cheaper. Their only advantage will be stored maps. But from Engadget's review:

     
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    My experience with Navigon has not been all that good. It keeps losing the GPS signal. No, it's not the phone, because Google Maps found me even inside a building. I'll be under an open sky in an area of low buildings and the red GPS warning will pop up. This happened most recently on the Capitol Beltway around DC in my Tundra pickup.

    It's kind of a pain, because I don't have nav built into that vehicle. I'm shopping for a Delorme PN-40 now. The problem will be solved with that. Had I known Navigon would be unreliable in my truck, I'd have saved to money and put it toward the PN-40.

    My experience, YMMV.

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    Navigon has worked 99.99% for me. I did have an issue in NYC where I was between many tall buildings on a narrow street. Other than that, it has worked perfectly for me.

    The new update is pretty darn good. I paid the extra $19.99 for in-app traffic. There was no traffic to speak of this morning, so we'll see how it goes tonight. I have checked out the traffic just looking at the map and scrolling through the text list of traffic. It seems to be pretty close to what Google shows in their app.

    Worth the wait.

    I'm wondering why TomTom hasn't really advanced their app yet - just a relatively minor set of enhancements about a month ago. They're letting the competition own the market. Very strange.

    --DotComCTO
     
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    Why does everyone assume Google will be better then all of the other GPS applications?
     
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    I don't expect anything from Tom Tom to get whole lot cheaper.:rolleyes:

    I installed this update last night. Still contemplating on whether to go for the traffic update.
     
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    Do it...its fabulous!! In LA, it has given me re-routing choices based on traffic slow downs and accidents that are fantastic. Very cool for $20 as a one time charge!
     
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    Are you sure your phone is getting a GPS lock in google maps and not a AGPS lock?

    Basically when you think you have a lock in maps is the blue dot pulsing or is it just the dot with a circle around it? If its pulsing it has a GPS lock if not your using AGPS. navigon requires a GPS lock.

    The other things to check is if you have a case on it. I find some hard shelled cases interfere with reception.

    Last but not least when you try using it do you put the phone up on your dash?
     
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    I downloaded a few days ago been tinkering with it but have yet to have it give me a new route due to traffic congestion partly is I go with the flow of traffic(work/home) here in so cal but you never know when traffic pops up. I have traffic information set to > automatically is this what you have yours set to? also in type of route is set to > optimum

    I noticed that the voice is cutting out and not pronouncing the whole freeway name or street anyone else having this happen
     
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    yeah, Navigon is sometimes frustratingly slow or has hiccups with the original 3G, especially slow when it's also controlling the ipod app.
     
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    The poor GPS reception is because of the iPhone hardware, not the Navigon software. To understand why the builtin Maps app will still show your location when Navigon, or other GPS apps for that matter, won't, you need to know a little about how the iPhone's Core Location service works. Basically though, the Maps app will try to show your location even when the phone isn't getting a good, or any, GPS signal, whereas Navigon prefers to not use the location information unless it's accurate, at least as reported by the phone. By the way, you'll find that all the other turn-by-turn iPhone applications do the same thing. The amount of accuracy required for turn-by-turn navigation is much higher than what people would expect from the Maps app, so they figure it's better to just tell you there isn't a good signal than to show you the wrong location information.

    In more detail: The iPhone's Core Location API will try to report a location even when the iPhone can't get a good GPS signal. In that case it will use cell tower and/or IP address information to estimate where you are. This can often be fairly accurate, but not nearly as accurate as GPS. The Core Location (CL) API reports, in addition to location information, how accurate it thinks the location information is. When the phone is getting an actual GPS signal then the indicated accuracy will be much higher. The Maps app will always show you the location CL reports, even when the accuracy is low, though it visually indicates when the accuracy is low by showing a circle around the dot. Turn-by-turn apps like Navigon will simply not use the location information unless the accuracy reported by CL is above a certain threshold.
     
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    Common misconception. It doesn't use IP addresses this is how it works:
    http://www.skyhookwireless.com/howitworks/coverage.php

    Its a database of known wifi connections. You don't need to be connected to the wifi (therefore no IP) to be able to determine the location.
     
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    Glad to hear you're using this: I plan to keep it much more aggressively up-to-date than has been the case in the past, but don't hesitate to let me know if you find errors or need clarifications.:(:eek:
     
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    Interesting! I didn't know exactly how that worked. Is it known for a fact that Apple uses Skyhook data for its Core Location framework?

    In any case, in the context of this discussion the exact way it works isn't relevant. The point is that wifi/cell-tower based location service is not as accurate as GPS, which is why turn-by-turn apps won't use it. I do sometimes wish that Navigon would show me a location even when it doesn't have an accurate location, and just indicate that the accuracy is low like the Maps app does, rather than no location.
     
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    http://www.skyhookwireless.com/inaction/

    And yeah I agree sometimes I wish navigon would go into a different view or something if it doesn't have GPS access.
     
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    Does anyone know if this is device-specific, or account-specific?

    I have navigon on two iPhones and will purchase the traffic if it works on both phones for $20.
     
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    Just bought mobilenavigator yesterday and it works PERFECTLY!! It was able to get a GPS lock in less than 2 seconds everytime. Thinking of getting live traffic now. Is it good? For some reason the price shows as 19.99 euros. Did anyone else see that?
     
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    I would like to hear a little more about how the Live Traffic works--not the scientific "why" but what you see or should see on the screen and how it recommends or automatically re routes you.

    thanks,
     

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