More $$$ for Iraq this year?

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  1. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    Will Bush act to support the troops, or will he leave them short on money and equipment because of his political needs?
     
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    i wonder how much these figures would change if more US troops are needed
     
  3. mactastic thread starter macrumors 68040

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    Well according to 'Rat, all you do is snap your fingers and it happens. I wonder if Rummy's getting ready to snap his?
     
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    I wish somebody would snap Rumsfeld's fingers for him...
     
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    No no. You've all misunderstood. Iraqi oil production will pay for the occupation.
     
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    Yeah I've heard that. Doesn't square with the facts though.
     
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    iow, the US expenditures are all loans?
     
  8. IJ Reilly macrumors P6

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    No, that was the rebuilding, not the occupation. Nobody ever said oil revenue would pay for that. Not to worry, it's not going to cost over $50 billion anyway.

    To this administration, nothing is above politics. They just need to keep reminding us how John Kerry is weak on defense, and everything will turn out great.
     
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    May I remind you that with the current US budget deficit, ALL US expenditures ARE loans....
     
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    <sounds of applause>
     
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    Well ... there is that... ;)
     
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    so, is the republican goal here to cause a train wreck? four hundred billion this year, plus another fifty supplemental, just for defense? regardless of circumstances, the US can't keep up this level of spending on the military and still retain a viable economy. i think the current administration needs to be reminded of all the crowing they did when the soviet union spent itself out of existence. history repeating and all, but this isn't even history, it's just barely retro...
     
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    i believe the secret WH plan is to devalue the dollar so much ($1.50/euro) that there'll be a scramble to buy the US debt.
     
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    on abcnews right now -- it's costing the US $4.7 billion / month for the military to be in iraq.

    estimates for keeping in iraq, for 3 months, some 20,000 troops who were supposed to go home, is $700 million extra.
     
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    The last month must have been double that, then. Lost equipment, widows' pensions, etc.
     
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    If the British government is going to continue to support the war, it seems that they should pay their fair share, don't you think? And being that we want the British to feel like equal partners (we wouldn't want to insult them, would we?) they should be pay an equal amount, right?

    What say you skunk and amnesiac1984? :D
     
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    You know, the big 'joke' about Gulf War I is that we almost made money off that war. Shrub's daddy knew enough to work the international community to pay for that military action rather than putting the US in the postion of having to foot the entire cost. Shrub didn't take that lesson to heart, and believed all the BS being fed to him from 'welcomed with open arms' to 'Iraqi oil will pay for everything'. In the process he alienated most of those who might have been willing to help out. Our 'coalition of the willing' is dwindling fast, and we (the American taxpayer) are footing the bill AND providing the bodies as a result of his miscalculation.
     
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    or, why not, FROM him...
     
  19. skunk macrumors G4

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    Well that's what I meant! :rolleyes:
     
  20. skunk macrumors G4

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    I'm sure we're paying for our own upkeep. Let's keep it that way. After all, it's George's friends, not Tony's, who are getting all the perks.
     
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    Has Tony any friends left?
     
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    I, of course am no fan of the 'War' or of our ballooning budget deficits...but considering Bush got us into this mess, the least he could do is properly fund the troops, even if it costs him politically...(as long as I'm dreaming I'd like a pony...). I find this disgusting beyond words...
     
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    i think bush made two grave errors in assuming:
    1. war will go according to plan
    2. war can be done on the cheap

    some commander in chief, huh?
     
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    Its a fair point but there's no way we could afford, we are not nearly as big as the US. Anyway, as skunk said, bush's buddies are gettin gall the money anyway. Maybe Tony's plan is to start a Grand Prix in Iraq and so help out Bernie Ecclestone (is that the right guy?) :p
     
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    You've got me thinking: maybe we can pay for this thing through corporate sponsorships. We'll let Disney open a Fallujah Disney World; we can have Rev. Schuller build a new Crystal Cathedral in Najaf; how about a Six Flags Great Iraq in Basra; the possibilities are endless. Give the Iraqis what they really want, Janet Jackson and Justin Timberlake.
     

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