MSNBC: White House rejects proposal to partition Iraq

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  1. clevin macrumors G3

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    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15334267/
    smartass tony snow, you kept rejecting Dems and nonpartisan groups' plan, while yourself has absolutely no plan other than "stay there".
     
  2. MACDRIVE macrumors 68000

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    That's because they don't want to deal with 3 separate governments to access the oil. Splitting up the country is exactly what is needed right now, but of course with this current administration, doing what is needed is beyond their competence level.
     
  3. Thomas Veil macrumors 68020

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    Actually it would be two. The Sunnis are not in favor of this kind of plan either, because there is much less oil in their region than in the other two.

    OTOH, I agree completely with your point that Bush will listen to any ideas that might actually work.
     
  4. toontra macrumors 6502

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    You mean "won't", presumably?
     
  5. bemylover macrumors regular

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    A country is not a piece of pie to split it up at one's will. There are thousands of ethnic/religios groups in the world, if all of them had their own country the world would be very different from what it is now, and I'm afraid it would be much worse.
     
  6. toontra macrumors 6502

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    Could you explain why you think a federal Iraq could be worse than what's happening now (and in the foreseeable & likely future)?

    Countries have split up (and been split up by others) continuously over history, sometimes with good outcomes. If the Iraqi's democratically decide to divide their country, are you saying the US should object in principle?

    The fact that Bush objects to such a division speaks volumes about why they invaded in the first place - nothing to do with democracy, everything to do with installing a pliant regime across the whole country who would allow the US military bases and a steady flow of the black stuff.
     
  7. bemylover macrumors regular

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    Here is the explanation:
    if there was only Iraq, and the rest of the world was perfect, I would completely agree with you. Unfortunately that's not the case. Take Turkey, for example, Turkey has a large Kurdish region on the southeast and those Kurds have been fighting for independence for decades. If you give Iraqi Kurds de-facto independence, it will be very hard to explain to Turkish Kurds that they can't be independent when Iraqi Kurds can. North of Iran is populated by Azeris, I am sure they will want independence too. Syria also has Kurds etc. etc. etc. the list goes on forever. By splitting up Iraq, you are telling all those guys that they should just start killing each other and the world will recognize their independence. That's something you don't want to do.
     
  8. clevin thread starter macrumors G3

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    you can still split iraq into 3 regions with VERYYYY weak central government. thats the way to go, but if WH even decline to think about it, then they can't find nothing.
     
  9. bemylover macrumors regular

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    WH has no reason for not doing that if that would really bring peace to Iraq, it would be much easier to suck oil out of peacefull and divided Iraq. They are not doing that only because it will not bring peace.

    Similar situation is in former Yugoslavia. Kosovo is in fact independent for several years already, yet the world is extremely reluctant in recognizing that fact de jure. The UN postponed making that decision several times, but it looks like they will have to decide one way or another in March, so they keep saying that Kosovo is a special case and it should not be seen as precedent.
     
  10. Dont Hurt Me macrumors 603

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    This is the problem with Bush & gang, Its only our way or the highway wild west mentality. It doesnt solve much. America is crying for a problem solver on so many issues and we arent going to get it out of this bunch in Congress and the Whitehouse. Im hoping Obama will run in 2 years because we are sick of the partisan BullS... out of both partys. Lets solve problems rather then throwing labels at each other. Bush Jr will go down in history as the Great Divider,little else .....and getting us into Iraq needlessly. How many have died for his War? Thousands,Tens of thousands, Hundreds of thousands?
     
  11. OnceUGoMac macrumors 6502a

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    The proposal's not to split Iraq into three different countries, but to create a confederacy. It's a good idea, but the Sunni's do need a cut of the oil in order for it to work.
     
  12. miloblithe macrumors 68020

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    Considering the number of internally displaced persons in Iraq, some kind of partition seems more or less inevitable. One more tragedy among many, but hopefully it can lead to somewhat more peace down the road.
     
  13. xsedrinam macrumors 601

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    If only Iraq were an Intel Mac hard drive, an operating system wouldn't be so difficult.
     
  14. miloblithe macrumors 68020

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    booo boooooooo.

    lol. :)
     

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