Must play XBox games?

Discussion in 'Games' started by mrgreen4242, May 18, 2006.

  1. macrumors 601


    Feb 10, 2004
    Well, I think I am going to finally buy an XBox. :p Having had a Mac mini and a GameCube for so long, I feel like I have missed out on a lot of PC/console games in the last couple years. Rather than build a PC or drop $400 on a 360, I figure $90 on a used XBox is a pretty decent buy, especially since there are almost no games over $25 at this point, and most are under $20.

    So, what are the "must play" XBox games I should look into? I'll be starting with a Halo-athon, going through both of those games first. I'll definately get Half-Life 2, as well. Apart from that Fable: Lost Levels and Sid Meier's Pirates! are the only other games I know that I would like to try.

    I'm not huge on sports games, and unless it's amazingly better than Halo1/2 and Half-Life, I assume that I'll be all FPSes out. GTA games bored the poop out of me as well. I have to get Super Smash Bros. before I get an fighter games for the XBox, too. But puzzle games, adventure games (I'm a HUGE point and click adventure game fan, so anything even sort of like the old Lucas Arts games would be excellent), fun RPGs (as an example, my favorite RPG is Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga for the GBA... FF7 couldn't hold my interest through the first disc), anything else unique or innovative... Thanks for any suggestions!

    (Also, just to head off the "OMG why would you buy an XBox?!" comments, I'm not willing to spend $400 on a system without any games, I can go back through a ton of games I missed over the last 3-4 years for very little money, and when I am done with it, I can turn it into a media center for DiVX playback and upscaled 1080i DVD playback. Plus, I'm only a semi-graphics whore... 480p 16:9 Xbox games will be a treat after stretched mode GCN games, I can wait another 12 months for a 360 price drop. :) ).
  2. macrumors 68040


    Apr 7, 2005
    Why are you wearing that stupid man suit?
    Just to let you know the Xbox sucks for content streaming unless it's music. Video? Forget it. It won't even play ReplayTV shows without grinding to a halt. There isn't enough RAM in the system to cache TV shows while streaming.

    As for Games,
    DOA all of them (DOA3, DOAXVB, DOA Ultimate)
    Ninja Gaiden
    Halo 1/2
    Burn Out

    all are good games to start with.
  3. macrumors 68000


    Feb 9, 2006
    USA, KS
    Just to preface, this list might include some games that came out on other platforms (even GameCube). Also, these are games I either played, had a friend who loved them, or heard great things about but never had a chance to try...

    NOTE: I had a huge list of games... then the "Number List" feature killed it. *screams*
  4. macrumors Core


    Jan 18, 2005
    Darkplace Hospital
    Number list destroyed a couple of my posts too :( ALAS!

    Bad for video streaming? nonsense. I've streamed video across loads with no problem, no dropping frames or anything. I have the cache at 4000-something mb. perfect on my end.

    I'd recommend Halo 1 and Panzer Dragoon Orta. I wasn't too keen on the Xbox's lineup personally. Still won't sell it though, those 2 games really are fantastic.
    really is all I can recommend :eek:
  5. macrumors regular

    Oct 28, 2004
  6. macrumors G4


    Aug 24, 2003
  7. macrumors 6502a


    Jul 20, 2005
    Denton, TX
    Ninja Gaiden is a great game, but don't bother if you aren't up for a challenge.

    Splinter Cell is great too.
    Knights of the Old Republic was fun and not-too-difficult. KOTOR2 hasn't grabbed my attention, though - I'm still on the first planet.
  8. macrumors 68000


    Jun 6, 2003
    District of Columbia
    Reading your post just made me buy Half-life 2.

    I like FPSs a lot, I agree that Halo2 is a "must have".

    You might also like Hitman: Contracts. Its the third or fourth in the series but I think its a lot more fun than its predecessors. The game is a little frustrating at times but the artwork is incredible.

    Anyway, Halo 2 is the only game thats been in my Xbox for months now.

    I'm not getting a 360 at least until Halo 3 comes out and I have an HDTV. So you're not alone.
  9. thread starter macrumors 601


    Feb 10, 2004
    Heh, you shuold go talk to the 100's of people on the XBox Media Player site... I think they would all disagree with you. Anyways, I'd probably upgrade the internal drive to 20 or 40gb's anyways, and store most of the video on there.

    People have pretty good things to say about 480p widescreen DiVX/MPEG4 and DVD playing upconverted content to 1080i with thier XBox and XBMP.

    Anyways, thanks for the game recomendations... what kind of game is Psi Ops?
  10. macrumors 603


    Aug 20, 2005
    Thank you Jah...I'm so Blessed
    Ninja Gaiden Black is hard as hell but still good....Freedom fighters, Otogi 1 and 2, Halo.

  11. macrumors Core


    Jan 18, 2005
    Darkplace Hospital
    3rd person shooter sorta game. It's actually very good, I only played a bit but found it very enjoyable. I really gotta play my Xbox more :eek: Forza is just the best racing sim I've played, Burnout-something was snazzy. Psi-Ops was fun. Try the Sonic Gem Collection or whatever it's called, was very good.

    I still stand by Halo 1 and Panzer Dragoon as my only "must play" games though.
  12. macrumors regular

    Feb 21, 2006
    Halo 2 and get Live!!!! You NEED live!!! Seriously, you do. It gets old playing byl yourslef all of the time. Also, if u get live, watch out for modders, standbyers, superbouncers(which isn't illegal, but is very aggervating:D ), and bridgers.
  13. macrumors Core


    Jan 18, 2005
    Darkplace Hospital
    You don't need Live. Get Xlink Kai. I used it after my Xbox Live subscription went off and didn't look back.
  14. thread starter macrumors 601


    Feb 10, 2004
    Oh, forgot about Forza. Looks sexy as hell. Thanks for that one. Ninja Gaiden looks like fun, although if it's as hard as everyone says, it might not be my cup of tea...

    Can anyone clear up for me if Fable:Lost Levels is an expansion or just an improved rerelease of the original game?
  15. macrumors 6502a


    Nov 6, 2003
    Definately agree on that one. Don't know why he'd think that it chokes. I have an XBMC setup now, and I stream video from my ReplayTV with no problems whatsoever. In fact, it looks identical to the output of the ReplayTV itself in quality. I've also streamed Divx and Mpegs over the network from a desktop PC with it, as well as music directly from iTunes using the iTunes sharing feature, which XBMC supports. It's really the perfect solution for streaming media, plus you can get one for under $200, chip and all. Great deal.
  16. thread starter macrumors 601


    Feb 10, 2004
    I was looking at that... looks like I'll need to softmod/chip the system to make that work? I was planning on doing that anyways, so not a big deal... is the Halo2 community pretty active through that "service"? I'm not to keen on paying $50 a year just for a multiplayer game or two; I'd play WoW if I wanted that. :p

    EDIT: Er, or not. Looks like there is just some way to integrate the XBox right into the Kia network w/o a PC if you have it modded?
  17. thread starter macrumors 601


    Feb 10, 2004
    Ya, that'll be a nice secondary use for it. I have a multiformat DVD player, but it's a PITA to burn discs, etc. Plus, my TV really shines with 1080i content, even if it's just upconverted. I'll definately softmod my system, if I can swing it (haven't checked the Dashboard version yet), so the whole setup will run me under $120 (for the Xbox, component cable, and DVD remote). Like you said, pretty good deal.

    Anyways, the actual reason I replied was because I wanted to ask you how the XBMC DVD player was nowadays... it didn't use to suppoer DVD menus, but sounds like it does now? Will it rip a movie to the HDD (not transcode, just dump the decrpyted VOB files to the drive)? Do you have an HDTV? If so, how's the quality of the scaler for SD material? I've heard it's good for 1080i, but the de-interlacer isn't the greatest, so 720p isn't stellar? Sorry for all the Q's, I've had a tough time getting recent info on the package...

    Oh, and didn't mention this, but I am absolutely impressed with how good Halo 1 looks at 480p widescreen with the component cables. Wow. Very smooth, surprisingly nice textures, incredibly fluid animation, though. Looks like it's pulling off 60 full 720x480 frames per second. I'm excited to see Halo 2. :)
  18. macrumors 68030


    Jan 8, 2005
    On the moon.
    See, the problem lies in that Onizuka is a diehard Sony fanboy.
  19. macrumors 6502a


    Sep 27, 2005
    Philadelphia, PA
    Ninja Gaiden- SO hard. But definitely worth it, truly amazing game and satisfying when you beat it.
  20. thread starter macrumors 601


    Feb 10, 2004
    I tend to get frustrated and quit games that are too hard. I'm lazy. Games are about fun. If it makes me want to pull out my hair, it's not fun. Sure, if a boss is very hard to beat, but the rest of the game is the "right" level of difficulty, that's fine I'll plug away at the boss until I can move on, but if an entire game is frustratingly difficult... well...

    A good example of this is Metroid Prime. Fun game right? I thought so. Except that I, for whatever reason, get lost in that game in every level. I can't do it. I don't know why, but the level design in that game confuses the piss out of me. There are a couple other FPS games like that for me. Surprisingly Halo isn't one of them. I played a good chunk of that game on my iMac last year when a friend was visiting for a long weekend and brought the disc over... the level design was good (to me): it was almost always very clear where you are supposed to go next, but at the same time there is SOME challenge to it (although, I'll admit that on 'normal' it's a pretty easy game - but I'm cool with that, it's fun)!

    Wow, as big of a Nintendo fanboy as I am, I think I just said that MS' flagship FPS franchise is better than Nintendos... Ah well, they still have Mario [insert genre here] and Zelda! :)
  21. macrumors G3


    Aug 20, 2003
    sitting on your shoulder
    I'll agree on Forza (I've been playing it more than anything now. The online community is multiple powers better than Halo's. People actually hold real conversations instead of constantly trash talking.)
    I liked Psi-Ops when I had it in from GameFly, but I canceled the service before I could finish the game.
    Snowblind was pretty cool (like Psi-Ops, except FPS, and with bionic implants rather than mind powers), but it only had one level of difficulty (that I could find anyway)
    If you like RPGs like Fable (I have the standard, not the later one), and you are somewhat interested in East-Asia culture/mythology/etc., you will LOVE Jade Empire. I beat it through with one character, and I have the special edition which enables a secret 4th character, so I think I should get back to playing it again.
    Burnout was pretty cool (on GameCube anyway. I don't see why it should play any differently on XBox), but unless you don't mind EA's dirty habits, you can probably skip Burnout3 (I'll admit that the crash challenges are fun).

    I think once the price of the 360 drops, I'll get that and Forza 2. I love (good) racing sims. ;)

    So, you get completely lost in a game with a 3D map available, but in a game with no map available what so ever, you do just fine? You are never navigating for me. :p
    I got myself turned around and going the wrong direction in both games. I usually realized it at the next room though.
  22. macrumors 6502a

    Feb 28, 2006
    Central Illinois
    Crimson Skies
    Unreal Championship 2 (the original was just UT2003, the second is totally original)
    Ninja Gaiden
    Halo 1/2 (just because you have to; not because I liked them that much)
    MechAssault 1/2 (because they are incredible)
    Panzer Dragoon Saga
    Crazy Taxi 3 (not as good as 1 and 2 on the Dreamcast, but still fun)

    Did the second and third Prince of Persia games come out for the Cube? If not, buy them both and thank me later.
  23. thread starter macrumors 601


    Feb 10, 2004
    Laugh, I know it sounds funny, but the map, while helpful, isn't amazingly useful. There's so much backtracking and whatnot that I get confused where I am actually trying to get. Using the map (and the markers they put on it for you) I can do OK, but it's boring/frustrating to keep checking a map rather than actually playing. With Halo, it's pretty obvious (at least so far, about 50-60% into the game) where you are supposed to be headed, and how to get there, without needing a map. Plus, the "on-board navigation system with audio prompts" pretty much alerts you when it's time to turn or go somewhere.

    They're two very different type of games, is all. Metroid is a 3D adventure almost platformer FPS... Halo is an action FPS, pure and simple. I just have trouble with complex 3D maps. :p It's kinda funny, since 2D adventure games are some of my favorite of all time... ah well.

    Ok, so Fable, Forza, Half-Life 2, and Pirates! are on my must have list, and Psi-Ops and Jade Empire are on the check out and consider lists. Very good. :)
  24. MRU
    macrumors demi-god


    Aug 23, 2005
    My top xbox games

    Crimson Skies
    Grabbed by the ghoulies
    Beyond good and evil
    Metal Arms
    Dead Or Alive Ultimate
    Panzer Dragoon
    Gun Valkaryie
  25. thread starter macrumors 601


    Feb 10, 2004
    I'll have to add Crimson Skies to my check and consider list. Hear lots of good things about that one, and you're the second in this thread to recommend it. I remember the Crazy Taxi games (arcade maybe? never had a DC), and I wonder if my wife might like those. I'll have to try them out.

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