My platform for running for Office

Discussion in 'Community' started by Backtothemac, Jul 24, 2002.

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Should people who molest children get life with no parole on the 1st offense?

  1. Oh, yea! Great idea B2TM!

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  2. Na, keep it up to the states

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  3. They should only get therapy

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  4. Actually, they should just shoot them and get it over with

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  1. Backtothemac macrumors 601

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    Well, as many of you know I am a rather political person. I have often talked to my wife about running for Office someday, and I have decided to do it in 2004 or 2006. I am going to start being more active in the community here in our state, and use those contacts.

    Basically I am a fiscal conservative, but a social liberal. I believe that what people do is there buisness. I also believe that they, as members of society have an obligation to society to be productive, however, the correct tools for them to be so must be in place.

    One of the main points that I am going to run under is that if elected I am going to present legislation before the house that would make Child Molestation a Federal Felony punishable by life with no parole. The way that children are being kidnapped and murdered is too sad. We have an obligation to protect those that cannot protect themselves. Had the thing in California been convicted the first time and sentenced, Samantha would still be alive.

    The people that commit these acts cannot be cured. They cannot be rehabilitated. So, lock them up for life. If someone takes a child and murders that child. Mandatory death. Period. No way around it. Actually, why not pass a constitutional ammendment that says that if you commit murder upon a child, or lewd acts upon a child, you will be punished by death. There would not be long appeal processes either. The situation would be quick, and done. One less scumbag for parents to have to worry about.

    What do you think?
     
  2. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

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    I, unfortunately, am politically apathetic, as you know. But these sort of crimes - especially the one recently in the news, are horrid. I'm not going to vote - since that would mean taking a stand here, but I will say it should be dealt with. But the shadow of doubt rises up, and if its a matter of mental instability (it almost has to be a some level) prison isn't the solution for every individual.

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  3. Backtothemac thread starter macrumors 601

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    If someone is obviously insane, then yea, help them, but the facts about the people that commit these crimes are clear. They are preditors that function in society. They abide by all laws, but yet have a perversion for having sexual intercourse with Children. Normally they kill the child for fear of being caught. It is a evil cycle, and one that cannot be cured.

    Great to see you post on something political Duke!
     
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    If convicted, the scum don't deserve to have parole.

    Chuck the perverts into solitary confinement and throw away the key. I'm not adverse to the death sentence either...
     
  5. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

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    quoting myself to clarify: this can go to both extremes - I'm more of the opinion that each individual needs to be evaluated separately. Putting a minimum sentence as a *guideline* is fine, and some deserve more than minimum.

    Besides, put a child raper/killer in jail and it usually takes care of itself - look what happened to Jeffery Dahlmer.....

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  6. Durandal7 macrumors 68040

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    You found an issue I feel stongly about B2TM, I consider child molesting to be one of the most heinous crimes in this society. Life in prison should be the minimum for these types of offenses.
     
  7. Backtothemac thread starter macrumors 601

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    Wow, I agree with what is being said. I really am going to run for Office one day, and when I do I will have my hands full. I just think that there is no greater crime that can be commited than the one that was committed against Samantha Runion. I just wish that I could have 10 minutes in a room with no windows with the guy that did it.
     
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    They are the lowest of low. Life in prison is being mericful.
     
  9. Backtothemac thread starter macrumors 601

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    I know that this would never happen, but this is what I would love. Have a national lottery where you buy tickets. Say 1$. The winner would get to go to California for free, stay in a 5 star hotel, and then choose the method with which to kill the piece. 1/2 of the money would go to the victims family and the other 1/2 would go to programs across the country that would increase awareness of child molesters and the ways with which parents can prevent the abduction of their children. If the winner wanted they could just allow for the state to execute them, but people like me. I would have to do it myself.
     
  10. Backtothemac thread starter macrumors 601

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    You know that actual problem is that the criminal justice system in the us is broken. It doesn't rehabilitate anyone. We sentence people to 5 years who are caught with a quarter bag of pot, and yet this guy got off for molesting two 9 year olds only two years ago. UNREAL! We seriously need to get the politicians out of the courts, and let common sense prevail. These people kill more children every year than the terrorists did on 9/11. I for one want a 'war on child molesters'.

    I just pray that at some point in my life someone tries to take a child that is in my presence. They would not like the result. That is another disturbing fact. It was reported that Samantha's neighbors saw the abduction and did nothing. If I saw that in my neighborhood, I am going to give the benifit of the doubt to the child and walk up and say, sweetheart is this your dad? No, hope you packed your lunch jr.

    People. Be proactive in your community. If you see someone dragging a child kicking and screaming, at least follow them in your car and call 911 and stay with them until the police get there!
     
  11. Durandal7 macrumors 68040

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    This reminds me of something happening locally. A woman taped red-hot quarters onto her 6 year old grandson on an almost daily basis and tore off any skin that would begin to heal. She was sentenced to 10 years in prison with a plea bargain. A local city council member was caught ordering pizza with a city credit card. He faces up to 17 years in prison :rolleyes:
     
  12. iGav macrumors G3

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    I'd cut their nuts off first......... then kick the living daylights out of them........

    But I'm not the most politically correct of people when it comes to dealing with sick scumbags like these......

    In the UK we have more than our fair share of sick bast*rds....... not a day goes past without hearing on the news of some paedophile being arrested, or some child pornography circle been smashed...... but for every person that is arrested..... you can bet that another one joins their sick ranks.......
     
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    Screw "political correctness."

    These sick f*cks don't deserve the decency.
     
  14. Backtothemac thread starter macrumors 601

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    Yea, I am not politically correct on this issue at all, nor do I think that we should be. I think make the punishment so severe that they won't act out on their desires. Draw and quarter them in public once or twice, and I bet that it would slow down the crimes.
     
  15. iGav macrumors G3

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    Exactly....... that's why I'd cut their nuts off first.... with the rustiest, bluntest blade I could find........
     
  16. Backtothemac thread starter macrumors 601

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    My dad used to tell my sisters boyfriends that if he ever caught them abusing her he would....

    "Take you out in the woods and make you stand in front of a tree that I had cut down the day before. Then I would make you kneel in front of the stump. Then you would nail your own D**k to the stump. Then I would pour a gallon of gas around you. Before I light the match, I will hand you a razor blade, and you decide. Cut if off, or burn to death."

    Yea, my dad is pretty hard core. Really hard core.
     
  17. iGav macrumors G3

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    Seems fair enough to me....... :p

    He never had to do it though did he???
     
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    note to self: steer clear of back-dawg's dad......
     
  19. Backtothemac thread starter macrumors 601

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    My dad is a ninny compared to what I would do if someone did that to my little girl. There are not words on the face of the earth that could describe what I would do.

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  20. Backtothemac thread starter macrumors 601

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    Nope. Not one time. She used to complain that no one would even kiss her. Funny really. I will do the same thing when Madi starts dating. Actually mine will be a little for scary than dads. he.he.
     
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    I didn't delve into the details of this debate... but I think you all are missing one thing...

    What if someone is wrongly convicted?

    Nothings 100% clear cut... sure if there were a magic wand saying "guilty" and "not guity" - then, sure, I would be for more strict punishments.... but that's the dilemna...

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  22. Backtothemac thread starter macrumors 601

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    I agree, there would have to be positive evidence. Like in this case with little Samantha. There is no doubt. In any way that they have the wrong guy. Arn your a Dr. DNA is pretty fool proof you know. That is the only good things about these guys is that they tend to leave a lot of evidence behind you know.
     
  23. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

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    good point, and I'm basing my points on the assumption that there is overwhelming evidence, either eye-witnesses, DNA, or other forensic stuff. The DNA test is the one that usually nails it down, as in the recent case.

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  24. Rower_CPU Moderator emeritus

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    It's interesting that the Samantha Runion story is such a big deal back East.

    It was definitely shocking that this guy was brave/crazy enough to just grab her right off the street where she was playing with her friend.

    While it seems like he has possibly been apprehended, it just goes to show how easy it is for these people to do a lot of damage in a short amount of time.
     
  25. Backtothemac thread starter macrumors 601

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    Man, Rower, it has really tore me up. I am having trouble sleeping at night because when I first saw the little girls picture, I thought for a second that it was my daughter. I was out of cell range, and out of town when it happened. As a parent, I am horrified of someone doing that to my daughter. I cannot imagine the pain that that poor child felt.

    Read the complaint against the jerk, and you will know what I mean. I don't know if I could handle something like that happening to my daughter. They would have to kill me to keep me away from him.
     

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