Need Help-Copying old hd to external

Discussion in 'Mac Basics and Help' started by Shortsord, Nov 8, 2005.

  1. Shortsord macrumors member

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    Here's the situation:

    We have an old iMac G3 600 running panther, it does the basics and works fine, but lately it has been stirring up trouble. Finder started relaunching whenever we tried to open a folder and any application would crash after a few bounces. We booted disk utility from the install disk and ran verify disk. It came up with about a half dozen overlapping extensions, or something like that, and couldn't successfully repair. The apple store told us to wipe and do a clean install. We need to get off about 100gb of files before we do, and this is where the problem really starts.

    I boot the iMac pressing 't', and connect it to my powerbook, along with an external(120gb) hard drive to transfer. I first drag and dropped everything at once on the iMac to the external, and up comes a few warnings about files not being copied due to permissions or a necessary password or some such thing, but I assumed I could take care of whatever files were having troubles o their own. In the middle of the transfer, it tells me that 'the item resources cannot be copied', and when I press continue the transfer stops. About 55 of 100 gb are transfered, specifically the Library folder(1.5gb) doesn't transfer at all, along with about half of the users folder(43gb of 86gb) and half of Previous System(250mb of 480mb). For all three folders, if I try to copy them manually and tell it to replace the old one, it simply stops at the same amount, without warning, and for the Library folder it simply stops as soon as it calculates the number of files and sizes.

    What I am hoping for, in terms of help, is a way to completely copy or duplicate the iMac hard drive to the external. They are both 120gb. Any way to do this avoiding permissions and such would be great.
    Or, if there is a program that can completely back up one hard drive to another like this, if that would help as I think.

    Any help at all would be much appreciated, and thanks for your consideration.
     
  2. alex_ant macrumors 68020

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    When Finder is complaining about permissions and whatnot, that doesn't necessarily mean permissions are the problem. You'll notice the vague language in the "item resources cannot be copied" error message - that means even Finder doesn't know what's going on, because there is something wrong with the filesystem and/or hard drive. In other words, that filesystem is seriously damaged and that's causing not just the Finder, but Mac OS itself to not be able to read from parts of it.

    It may just be a problem with the location of a few specific files/folders on the filesystem. Maybe try copying individual files/folders way down in the hierarchy and see if that works. Example, instead of trying to drag over all of aaa/ or aaa/bbb/, try dragging over aaa/bbb/ccc/ddd/1.jpg, aaa/bbb/ccc/ddd/2.jpg, aaa/bbb/ccc/ddd/3.jpg, etc.

    Also try the cp command from the Terminal if you're comfortable with that, I'm not sure if it's possible to modify cp's behavior to skip unreadable files or if it already does that automatically.

    If none of this works, I'm guessing your only hope would be to use third-party disk repair software like TechTool Pro or Norton or whatever and cross your fingers..
     
  3. Shortsord thread starter macrumors member

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    I've thought about dragging files or folders over individually, but there are just so gosh darn many. Perhaps I can try it slowly and find the problem, but I had hoped that would be a last resort due to the man hours that would take.

    I'm not very familiar with terminal, so I'm not exactly sure what that command is or means, but might be willing to try it if I knew more.

    I think I might have a copy of Tech Tools or Norton Works lying around, I'll have a look. But with them, what is it I should look for to try and do?

    Thanks a lot for the help.
     
  4. Will Cheyney macrumors 6502a

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    I've out-smarted similar troubles in the past just be copying everything across in chunks. Give that a try...
     
  5. jeremy.king macrumors 603

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    Comments about searching aside...

    CarbonCopyCloner or SuperDuper...Google em.
     
  6. Will Cheyney macrumors 6502a

    Will Cheyney

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    Or consider a .Mac account and get Backup 3 for free!
     

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