Need new mac at work... is G5 a good idea?

Discussion in 'Buying Tips and Advice' started by Chrispy, Apr 17, 2006.

  1. Chrispy macrumors 68020

    Chrispy

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    Hey all. We have an older G4 Dual machine at work (don't know exact specs but it is showing its age in CS2) and we are looking to replace it. Would it be stupid to buy a Dual Core G5 2.0 system now? The iMac is not an option as we already have two ACD monitors that we will be using (DVI models). Also, I know if we go Intel then we have to wait for Adobe to support OSX since Rosetta is not an option. This machine will be doing heavy graphics design and Video Rendering work at times. Is the G5 Dual 2.0 CPU still fast compared to the Intel machines or should we wait for full Intel support to upgrade? Looking for opinions from people who have used both the new iMacs and dual core G5 powermacs. Thanks!
     
  2. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    Get a refurbished Dual Core 2.0 GHz Power Mac and reuse your displays. If the Dual G4 is showing its age then Rosetta driven CS2 isn't going to be fun.
     
  3. discoforce macrumors 6502a

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    Several good reviews on the intel iMacs (Macworld, Macaddict), seem to draw the same conclusion: For non-native apps that require Rosetta (esp. CS2) the current G5s will kick the iMac's butt. For native apps (and CS2 will be someday), the iMac is faster.

    Based on your needs, it sounds like going for a refurb G5 is the way to go. The "should I wait" question is always a tricky one though, because you should always wait as long as you can. But if you want the best for right now (and clearly a huge upgrade compared to what you've had), it's the G5 for you.
     
  4. milo macrumors 604

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    If you want the maximum lifetime of the box, look at the quad. The duals are OK, faster on non-native stuff, but you don't get much for your money if theres a universal version.
     
  5. Platform macrumors 68030

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    G5...it will do you good, if not, I would think that when the PowerMac (Mac Pro) comes with Intel CPU's I think it will do CS2 at the same speed as the G5' even in Rosetta ;)
     
  6. FF_productions macrumors 68030

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    Go G5, it's the only machine that fits your needs. Don't get caught up in the Intel transition..
     
  7. Chrispy thread starter macrumors 68020

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    So on universal apps is the Dual Core 2.0 PM G5 faster than the iMac Intel?
     
  8. FF_productions macrumors 68030

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    Probably a close one between these 2 machines. I saw a benchmark with a 2.16 MacBook Pro beating a Dual 2 G5 (not dual core). I think the dual core is just as fast or faster than the intels.
     
  9. Eevee macrumors 6502a

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    MacWorld has some bench mark scores on the iMac Intel and Dual Core G5.

    http://www.macworld.com/topics/hardware/macsystems/desktopmacs/

    As of now, the universal appls is faster (I believe) on the iMac Intel than Dual Core. But CS2 is not universal yet, so for your needs, you have to make the decision.
     
  10. FFTT macrumors 68030

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    One of my best friends is a print shop production professional running CS2 and a whole bunch of other stuff on her dual 2.0 G5 like mine with 2 GB of RAM and she's able to work with the entire CS2 suite open.

    Adobe won't have CS3 out til some time in 2007, so for what you are doing
    the G5's are still the best machine.
     
  11. Chrispy thread starter macrumors 68020

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    Benchmarks

    Thanks for the link above :) I did some research and thought I would compile the benchmark results here. All around, with the exception of the UT2004 benchmark, the G5 was faster. The Mac Mini had a pretty good showing in native applications with the exception of UT2004 thanks to integrated graphics (the old mini was actually faster in UT2004). It looks like the G5 is the best bet for what we need :)

    iMovie 6.0.1
    PMG5 Dual 2.0 - 0:40
    17" Intel iMac - 1:06
    Intel Mini Dual - 1:15

    iTunes 6.0.3
    PMG5 Dual 2.0 - 0:57
    17" Intel iMac - 1:22
    Intel Mini Dual - 1:40

    Photoshop CS2
    PMG5 Dual 2.0 - 1:03
    17" Intel iMac - 2:44 (rosetta)
    Intel Mini Dual - 3:03 (rosetta)

    UT2004
    PMG5 Dual 2.0 - 43.7 FPS
    17" Intel iMac - 50.2 FPS
    Intel Mini Dual - 12.2 FPS (thanks integrated graphics)

    Cinema 4D
    PMG5 Dual 2.0 - 1:07
    17" Intel iMac - 1:16
    Intel Mini Dual - 1:26

    Speedmark 4.5
    PMG5 Dual 2.0 - 227
    17" Intel iMac - 202
    Intel Mini Dual - 144

    All benchmarks were taken from macworld.com. For more information on these results visit the site. It was very helpful for me.
     
  12. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    It's a good choice then. What are the specs on the machine that you'll be replacing?
     
  13. Chrispy thread starter macrumors 68020

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    If I remember correctly it is a mirrored door G4 dual 1.25GHz G4 with 1.5GB ram.
     

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