New Device? Multifunctional Combo Device?

Discussion in 'Mac Blog Discussion' started by MacRumors, Apr 21, 2003.

  1. macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001
    While reliable reports indicate that a communication device will be available in the next few weeks... some unconfirmed reports provide some details:

    According to these reports the new device will be a multifuctional device -- both phone and pda functionality with iCal, Mail and iChat integration. The new device is claimed to have Quicktime embedded as well as a camera to provide support for video.

    The device is said to be co-developed with Eriksson.
  2. macrumors 6502a


    Jan 2, 2003
    So is this device different than the other communicating device found on page one? They seem to conflict with each other.
  3. macrumors 6502a

    Dec 14, 2002
    this sounds very exciting if true, being able to phone, IM, video conference, take photos (if res is good enough) and do pda type tasks on the go would be great...would remove the need for me to get a laptop completely i would guess as long as it was fully intergrated with os x, and included developer tool so i could program on the go too. Only thing is the size of the device for phone, I'd feel dumb having a huge box held to my ear like in 80's films especially with the size of phones these days, and could be awkward to carry round every day instead of a small phone (though easier than a laptop and if quite big then easier to input things than on a phone or pda. I suppose bluetooth headphone/mic would remove the dumbness of holding a big box to your ear to phone someone....
  4. macrumors member

    Oct 26, 2002
    I'll believe it when I see it, and I don't think we'll see it (at least the way it's described here).
  5. macrumors newbie

    Feb 25, 2002
    I hope you are right. I already have a cell phone that I am happy with... I want an mp3 player, but if I have to wait for my cell phone contract to expire then I'm not going to be getting it from apple.

    If this is the case, I hope apple continues to sell the current iPods along side them.

  6. macrumors 65816


    Dec 28, 2002
    Oak Park, IL
    Apple isn't entering the phone market. They can't compete there.

    Also, Apple isn't going to release any kind of cookie-cutter PDA. They can't compete there, either.

    I'd put my money on a mini-tablet, al la Macwhisper's 8-inch enclosure.
  7. macrumors regular

    Jan 3, 2002
    I agree - about wanting a tablet -

    but if you are asking if Apple can be the no. 1 phone developer hmm maybe maybe not. but if Apple had a really good offering ALOT of mac users would buy one, and since a phone doesn't have to be Mac compatible alot of pc users might as well. -I also think the above, probably totally speculation, is in no way cookie cutter pda sounding... if you know where to get one that has those features... please, do tell.
  8. macrumors member

    Oct 26, 2002
    I would as well.
  9. macrumors 6502a


    Sep 4, 2002
    Raleigh, NC
    i'm calling

    some type of media control device....
  10. macrumors 604


    Apr 21, 2003
    Erricson P800

    Erriccson have just released the P800, after spending ages to get out - delay after delay.

    I really doubt they will launch a phone than will effectively complete against it.

    Of course unless they have just loaded extra software on to the phone to make it work with iCal etc. (And I don't think there was QuickTime for Symbian port (Symbian is the OS that the P800 runs on)).

    Also, if there was such a phone, what sort of a market would there be? Very Mac orientated. The P800 has a camera, and full PDA features, just like just this rumoured device.
  11. macrumors member

    Oct 26, 2002
    One thought I had is if iChat is going to get video conferencing, would Apple put some kind of webcam out? Same with a microphone if they enhance Speech further? Or some kind of tablet with Inkwell?

    I don't think Apple is going to do a tablet, pda, or cell phone, at least not with how they are today, but rather something that does well what all three of these do OK.

    I suppose we just have to wait and see.
  12. macrumors 68000


    Jan 22, 2003
    In your head.
    The min-tablet is not a new rumor. It mimics the direction that the industry is taking as well as follows Apples past development scheme.

    I picture a g3 iBook like tablet, with out an easily replaceable battery, blue-tooth, IR, AirPort, and 3rd party card connection (networking, slaveing and control being the key points of a device like this). If you believe this then the question is, would you buy a clunky, keyboadless, dumbed down iBook? Do you want/need a para-notebook in your life, and is there a market for a single digital hub in your house and a giant networked controller?

    The paperless office has yet to come, the Newton is dead, so I am skeptical, but hopeful.
  13. macrumors P6

    IJ Reilly

    Jul 16, 2002
    This thinking sounds valid to me, as it follows on from Apple's recent product strategy with the iPod and iApps -- not something entirely new and different, but a "best in class" implementation of an existing product or service.
  14. macrumors member


    Dec 9, 2002
    Ramat Gan - Israel
    Re: Erricson P800

    good point... must be something else...
  15. macrumors 6502a


    Feb 17, 2003
    nothing you might expect

    There's no reason apple would make a device that already excists.. Why do you think iPod was so succesful? There was no small 5Gt (-20Gt) mp3 players out there!
    This is not gonna be anything you'd expect :) Then again, I might very well be wrong.
  16. macrumors newbie

    Mar 30, 2003
    God, I hope you are right.
  17. macrumors newbie

    Apr 21, 2003
    thoughts on iChat & new devices

    Since we know that Apple would only introduce a digital hub accessory device if they thought the existing offerings blew chunks (consider MP3 players prior to iPod) and we know that iChat has precursors of videoconferencing built into, though not yet actively implemented, might I suggest that some manner of videophone device might be in store, possibly with internet phone capability (internet phone apps are pretty poor overall, and really thin on the Mac side)? Existing web cams propped up on top of monitors or off on the side introduce horrible parallax issues and the frame rates ... I'll be charitable and say that in my opinion, all web cams so far suck (this is my opinion, so if you disagree, let's just agree to disagree, ok?). A streaming MPEG4 two way video conferencing device and phone would, in my opinion, be very cool, and be something that doesn't truly have a competing device at this point in time (to the best of my knowledge). Any thoughts on my wild conjecture (no, I'm not calling this a rumor... this is pure speculation with a couple of educated guesses thrown in).
  18. macrumors member

    Jan 30, 2003
    Wellington, New Zealand
    Re: nothing you might expect

    Windowlicker, I think you mean 5GB... not quite sure what 5Gt is.

    Video for iChat sounds like a good possible device.
  19. macrumors 6502a

    Jan 29, 2003
    It's Ericsson not Eriksson. Is it reliable if the source can't spell this right?
  20. macrumors 6502a

    Jan 29, 2003
    Re: Re: nothing you might expect

    He's from Finland, maybe it's Gt in Finland?
  21. macrumors 65816

    Sep 13, 2002
    at the edge
    Re: thoughts on iChat & new devices

    What you say makes more sense than anything else.

    I thought Apple had made it clear they were not going into the phone or PDA business, and I think this rumor (the Page 1 rumor more than the one for this thread) sounds like something OTHER than the rumored tablet device.

    This is Page 2, after all. I don't buy this rumor, but the the Page 1 story is a possibility.

    A good firewire webcam with high quality video makes a lot of sense.
  22. macrumors 6502a


    Jan 2, 2003
    The land of delusions, CA.
    Re: New Device? Multifunctional Combo Device?

    The ROBOT MONKEY idea sounded more promising... :D
  23. Moderator


    Staff Member

    Dec 7, 2002
    Whakatane, New Zealand
    Re: Re: Re: nothing you might expect

    Could be, some countries do have different names. For example, France (I think) uses Mo instead of MB (not sure about Go/GB) which means "mega octet" (which kinda makes more sense than byte since octo means 8).
  24. macrumors 6502a


    Dec 3, 2002
    Okay, so amalgamating everything that's been said so far, imo we have a wireless video phone (with added nifty still camera) that runs over internet protocols with functionality as a thin client for basic work around the house/internet access plus with the new itunes music service it would double as an in-house jukebox that remotely controls your home theater system with a catalogue of all songs known to mankind.

    And the perpetual motion machine will be announced in September but won't ship 'till Christmas. ;)

    In all seriousness, that would be hella cool. What sucks is waiting eight more days to find out, and then being disapointed but upbeat when a basic webcam appears. Here's hoping for the best! Cheers!
  25. macrumors 68020

    Jul 4, 2002
    Muncie, Indiana
    It's obviously not an Apple Tablet. The features sound very close to the Sony Ericsson P800 phone, which has the Symbian software and is supposed to be a vastly better PDA than this stupid T68i that I have, and it has bigger, more usable buttons and a bigger, more readable display too. (Should have waited. :()

    And we've already heard that 10.2.5 now supports the P800, so this rumor probably is a confused report of that fact. The only part that makes no sense is connecting it to the Cinema Display.

    Maybe there's some kind of Tivo-like gizmo coming out which will allow the Cinema Display to be used as a television, with a Mac as a PVR. If so, we'll be needing an inexpensive headless Mac to go with it...

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