New iBook G4 Xbench Results (yes, it is the 7455)

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  1. jamdr macrumors 6502a

    jamdr

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    Okay, I ran Xbench 1.1.3 on the new 12" iBook G4 800 Mhz, 256 Mb of RAM. And yes, it has the G4 7455.

    Results 60.98
    System Info
    Xbench Version 1.1.3
    System Version 10.3 (7B85)
    Physical RAM 256 MB
    Model PowerBook6,3
    Processor PowerPC G4 @ 800 MHz
    Version 7455 (Apollo) v3.3
    L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
    L2 Cache 256K @ 800 MHz
    Bus Frequency 133 MHz
    Video Card ATY,RV280M9+
    Drive Type TOSHIBA MK3021GAS
    CPU Test 64.27
    GCD Loop 65.86 2.57 Mops/sec
    Floating Point Basic 57.75 208.84 Mflop/sec
    AltiVec Basic 63.78 1.85 Gflop/sec
    vecLib FFT 63.74 989.52 Mflop/sec
    Floating Point Library 71.81 2.87 Mops/sec
    Thread Test 53.99
    Computation 43.42 586.12 Kops/sec, 4 threads
    Lock Contention 71.37 895.91 Klocks/sec, 4 threads
    Memory Test 73.19
    System 60.95
    Allocate 468.91 305.87 Kalloc/sec
    Fill 35.59 283.33 MB/sec
    Copy 52.64 263.21 MB/sec
    Stream 91.59
    Copy 97.61 713.52 MB/sec [altivec]
    Scale 63.12 465.85 MB/sec [altivec]
    Add 109.07 698.07 MB/sec [altivec]
    Triad 118.79 725.83 MB/sec [altivec]
    Quartz Graphics Test 87.95
    Line 91.82 2.34 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
    Rectangle 74.33 5.23 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
    Circle 77.65 1.79 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
    Bezier 86.90 944.26 beziers/sec [50% alpha]
    Text 123.19 2.01 Kchars/sec
    OpenGL Graphics Test 65.89
    Spinning Squares 65.89 46.11 frames/sec
    User Interface Test 108.58
    Elements 108.58 34.92 refresh/sec
    Disk Test 53.64
    Sequential 59.48
    Uncached Write 53.14 22.15 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    Uncached Write 52.40 21.46 MB/sec [256K blocks]
    Uncached Read 92.49 14.64 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    Uncached Read 53.94 21.80 MB/sec [256K blocks]
    Random 48.85
    Uncached Write 43.85 0.66 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    Uncached Write 47.13 10.63 MB/sec [256K blocks]
    Uncached Read 51.18 0.34 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    Uncached Read 54.59 11.23 MB/sec [256K blocks]
     
  2. codycartoon macrumors regular

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    iBooks usually don't do to well on those things.

    -cody
     
  3. QCassidy352 macrumors G3

    QCassidy352

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    on what do you base that?

    and do you say it to imply that ibooks are unfairly portrayed as slower than they really are, or to say that ibooks are slow?
     
  4. codycartoon macrumors regular

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    I remember running xBench on my little 12 inch 600MHz iBook, and it did really bad.

    My powermac G4 867 on the other hand got 105 and i have had it for 2 years.

    I think iBooks are great for writing, I use mine for writing screenplays all the time. But if you want something for the long run i recommend a powerbook.

    -cody
     
  5. macstudent macrumors 6502

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    here is my dual g5 on panther with 1.5GB

    Results 189.68
    System Info
    Xbench Version 1.1.3
    System Version 10.3 (7B85)
    Physical RAM 1536 MB
    Model PowerMac7,2
    Processor PowerPC 970x2 @ 2.00 GHz
    L1 Cache 64K (instruction), 32K (data)
    L2 Cache 512K @ 2.00 GHz
    Bus Frequency 1 GHz
    Video Card ATY,RV350
    Drive Type ST3160023AS
    CPU Test 193.92
    GCD Loop 117.81 4.60 Mops/sec
    Floating Point Basic 318.89 1.15 Gflop/sec
    AltiVec Basic 137.23 3.99 Gflop/sec
    vecLib FFT 224.37 3.48 Gflop/sec
    Floating Point Library 413.88 16.57 Mops/sec
    Thread Test 191.40
    Computation 136.27 1.84 Mops/sec, 4 threads
    Lock Contention 321.42 4.04 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
    Memory Test 323.74
    System 371.73
    Allocate 734.50 479.11 Kalloc/sec
    Fill 330.70 2632.38 MB/sec
    Copy 271.37 1356.83 MB/sec
    Stream 286.72
    Copy 244.99 1790.91 MB/sec [G5]
    Scale 247.74 1828.36 MB/sec [G5]
    Add 333.35 2133.43 MB/sec [G5]
    Triad 353.01 2156.92 MB/sec [G5]
    Quartz Graphics Test 246.53
    Line 249.47 6.35 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
    Rectangle 236.08 16.61 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
    Circle 245.74 5.66 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
    Bezier 228.69 2.48 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
    Text 278.18 4.53 Kchars/sec
    OpenGL Graphics Test 151.78
    Spinning Squares 151.78 106.21 frames/sec
    User Interface Test 306.71
    Elements 306.71 98.65 refresh/sec
    Disk Test 104.95
    Sequential 108.79
    Uncached Write 132.56 55.26 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    Uncached Write 111.34 45.59 MB/sec [256K blocks]
    Uncached Read 84.18 13.33 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    Uncached Read 119.55 48.30 MB/sec [256K blocks]
    Random 101.37
    Uncached Write 95.30 1.43 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    Uncached Write 100.46 22.66 MB/sec [256K blocks]
    Uncached Read 98.71 0.65 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    Uncached Read 112.59 23.17 MB/sec [256K blocks]
     
  6. G5orbust macrumors 65816

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    we appreciate your ethusiasm, but this post really had nothing to do with anything related to this thread.

    But, on the ibook note, I personally think xBench gives lower marks to G3 processors. That G4 ibook, however, is pretty concurrent with other G4 scores at that range, however not G4's with even that good of graphics nor DDR RAM. Also, since xBench is dual proc aware, it will give duals higher scores. Also, for that test, were you running your ibook with the energy saver prefs to highest (from reduced)? That may help your score.
     
  7. bousozoku Moderator emeritus

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    One run with one iBook does not mean that all iBooks are doomed to be slow. In fact, the latest G3 iBooks are pretty quick.

    I was wondering about your signature--what's a macantosh?
     
  8. SFNE Freak macrumors member

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    Just curious; with this processor does this mean that the iBook G4 works with Temperature Monitor now?
     
  9. jamdr thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    New iBooks aren't that great

    The Xbench tests were run with the energy saving preferences set at maximum performance. People on these forums need to stop assuming that the new iBooks are suddenly such a huge leap forward, and that they will cut into PowerBook sales. The last generation of G3 iBooks scored just slightly lower on the Xbench tests. The 900 Mhz iBook ranged between 50-55 while the new 800 Mhz scored just a 60. Obviously, the 14" iBooks with 933 Mhz and 1 Ghz will score higher, but they probably won't come too close to the new, or even old 12" PowerBooks. The 867 Mhz 12" PowerBook scored maybe 70-75 on Xbench and the new 1 Ghz 12" PowerBooks scored in the low 90s. The new PowerBooks are much faster, and the iBook is no replacement for it.
     
  10. vin macrumors member

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    New 15" Powerbook 1.25 GHZ results (not running Panther)

    Results 103.68
    System Info
    Xbench Version 1.1.3
    System Version 10.2.8 (6R73)
    Physical RAM 512 MB
    Model PowerBook5,2
    Processor PowerPC G4 @ 1.25 GHz
    L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
    L2 Cache 512K @ 1.25 GHz
    Bus Frequency 167 MHz
    Video Card ATY,RV350M10
    Drive Type Hitachi IC25N060ATMR04-0
    CPU Test 151.74
    GCD Loop 144.78 5.65 Mops/sec
    Floating Point Basic 153.20 554.01 Mflop/sec
    AltiVec Basic 153.85 4.47 Gflop/sec
    vecLib FFT 156.22 2.43 Gflop/sec
    Floating Point Library 151.17 6.05 Mops/sec
    Thread Test 79.76
    Computation 79.09 1.07 Mops/sec, 4 threads
    Lock Contention 80.44 1.01 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
    Memory Test 126.91
    System 120.42
    Allocate 157.12 102.49 Kalloc/sec
    Fill 144.66 1151.50 MB/sec
    Copy 85.95 429.73 MB/sec
    Stream 134.14
    Copy 137.39 1004.30 MB/sec [altivec]
    Scale 138.84 1024.62 MB/sec [altivec]
    Add 133.70 855.69 MB/sec [altivec]
    Triad 127.24 777.43 MB/sec [altivec]
    Quartz Graphics Test 133.00
    Line 126.48 3.22 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
    Rectangle 125.40 8.82 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
    Circle 148.09 3.41 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
    Bezier 137.43 1.49 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
    Text 130.12 2.12 Kchars/sec
    OpenGL Graphics Test 98.92
    Spinning Squares 98.92 69.22 frames/sec
    User Interface Test 127.01
    Elements 127.01 40.85 refresh/sec
    Disk Test 66.63
    Sequential 80.53
    Uncached Write 76.01 31.69 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    Uncached Write 68.55 28.07 MB/sec [256K blocks]
    Uncached Read 139.25 22.04 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    Uncached Read 67.82 27.40 MB/sec [256K blocks]
    Random 56.83
    Uncached Write 49.25 0.74 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    Uncached Write 58.80 13.26 MB/sec [256K blocks]
    Uncached Read 56.66 0.37 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    Uncached Read 64.84 13.34 MB/sec [256K blocks]
     
  11. Helmut Kool macrumors member

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    Has anybody yet made some real life speed tests using common applications or doing usual tasks with iBook G4s? Any web sites or Macrumors readers' tests?
     
  12. fraeone macrumors regular

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    There have been some xbench results posted for the new G4 ibook at macnn that are far better than that. That being said, after some hands on, the 1ghz 12" still feels faster.
     
  13. QCassidy352 macrumors G3

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    Re: New iBooks aren't that great

    that wasn't my experience. i had a 900 mhz with maxed RAM and it scored a 43. Now, that was on the low end of the scores, but there's no way 50-55 was typical.



    I had an ibook 600 as well (went from that to the 900 now to a 12" PB), and I'm not surprised it did badly. It only had an 8 MB video card; it must have done horribly on the graphics tests.

    The PM 867 may be a little old, but it still destroys an ibook 600 (and even the new 12" ibook G4) in so many ways... clockspeed, G4 vs. G3, graphics card, HD speed, cache... everything basically.

    BTW, I did feel that xbench was unfair to my ibook 900. It was very fast and snappy with just about everything I did, and although my new PB is a lot faster, I don't think the difference is as great as xbench suggests (43 for ibook, 87 for PB, both on jaguar).
     
  14. zimv20 macrumors 601

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    my g3 ibook/800

    how is it possible that my nearly 1 year old g3 ibook beats the ibook g4?

    Code:
    Results	63.10	
    	System Info		
    		Xbench Version		1.0b3
    		System Version		10.2.3
    		Physical RAM		640 MB
    		Processor		PowerPC,750@0 [800 MHz]
    			L1 Cache		32K (instruction), 32K (data)
    			Bus Frequency		100 MHz
    	CPU Test	91.54	
    		GCD Recursion	70.88	2.77 Mops/sec
    		Floating Point Basic	76.54	257.98 Mflop/sec
    		Floating Point Library	127.20	5.71 Mops/sec
    	Thread Test	53.30	
    		Computation	51.73	416.72 Kops/sec, 4 threads
    		Memory Contention	30.50	96.46 MB/sec, 2 threads
    		Lock Contention	77.68	975.15 Klocks/sec, 4 threads
    	Memory Test	50.36	
    		System	62.93	
    			Allocate	152.69	80.32 Kalloc/sec
    			Fill	24.58	140.96 MB/sec
    			Copy	11.52	69.09 MB/sec
    		Stream	37.79	
    			Copy	37.68	150.71 MB/sec
    			Scale	37.66	150.66 MB/sec
    			Add	38.09	152.35 MB/sec
    			Triad	37.73	150.94 MB/sec
    	Quartz Graphics Test	75.56	
    		Line	81.90	2.08 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
    		Rectangle	68.66	4.83 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
    		Circle	65.51	1.51 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
    		Bezier	83.86	911.18 beziers/sec [50% alpha]
    		Text	77.88	1.31 Kchars/sec
    	OpenGL Graphics Test	54.75	
    		Spinning Squares	54.75	38.31 frames/sec
    	User Interface Test	66.30	
    		Elements	66.30	21.22 refresh/sec
    	Disk Test	49.91	
    		Sequential	56.38	
    			Uncached Write	51.13	19.03 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    			Uncached Write	53.79	18.84 MB/sec [256K blocks]
    			Uncached Read	70.78	10.46 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    			Uncached Read	49.81	18.67 MB/sec [256K blocks]
    		Random	43.44	
    			Uncached Write	31.66	0.53 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    			Uncached Write	48.98	10.18 MB/sec [256K blocks]
    			Uncached Read	39.07	0.42 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    			Uncached Read	54.07	10.41 MB/sec [256K blocks]
    
    edit: oh, maybe i should compare using same version of xbench...

    edit #2: i opened the same Xbench file using version 1.1.3, and it changed the overall score from 63.10 to 51.21. hm.
     

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