I've been trying out a beta of MSN Messenger 6 (for *coughs* windows). M$/MSN are supposedly doing a major overhaul to the MSNM network/client this summer, could this mean a new, improved mac version? Could this be why the speculation about the new iChat hasn't suggested MSN support? This beta has some pretty cool features, like the ability to make your own smilies (plus loads of builtin new ones) and iChat-esq avatars. The over UI is a massive improvement over previous versions, and it is starting look more like the Mac version. New features include: o Ability to start chats with a contact group o improved filesharing o improved webcam/audio support (multiple audience, like Yahoo) o integrated boardgames (not available yet) ...plus a few more new features. It'd be great to see these features ported to the mac as i'm sure you'll agree, the current client is pretty sucky. check out http://www.mess.be/.