New Revolution rumors!

Discussion in 'Games' started by kuyu, Apr 27, 2005.

  1. kuyu macrumors 6502a

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    God I hope this one is true...

    http://brokensaints.com/blog/?p=48

    According to the link above, the NR will feature stereoscopic 3d. I've done some research, and this technology is not that crappy "red and blue glasses" stuff. Also, considering the NR will use hi-def capable media, it may be the first 3d movie player to hit the market. Oh, and there is software which can turn any 2D movie into 3D.

    Two years ago I went to Universal Studios Island of Adventure. They have a stereoscopic 3D ride called Spiderman. It's amazing. I recall seeing the Green goblin throw a bomb at us from what appeared to be 100 feet away. Spidey grabbed it with web about 6 inches from our faces. Everyone ducked. This tech is extremely cool, and will change the way games are played.

    I just hope Sony doesn't pull a microsoft and steal the idea...
     
  2. DXoverDY macrumors 6502a

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    you know how apple tries to keep rumors quiet? same principle here for nintendo. so that the ideas don't go into the hands of the competitor. I honestly cannot wait to see the next nintendo system because that's really all i am interested in. this xbox thing can die a long painful death, i can see the ps3 being useful for some types of games, but i am a big fan of the nintendo games, especially their in house development, like pikman for example. being 22 and still playing nintendo games, ah somethings never change :)
     
  3. GFLPraxis macrumors 604

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    I'm highly skeptical of the brokensaints guy- he seems to have taken some stuff out of context. Further, he doesn't seem to have any more authority than the other leaks.

    Yes, Nintedno has patents and showed technology for 3d, but it has been used already in a game IIRC. Check the patent dates.


    I'm more inclined to believe this "insider":


    Very interesting. And very cool, either way.

    I'm hoping this guy is right (I added the bold BTW).

    One way to see if he's telling the truth or not; we'll see if Wave Race appears at E3 for Revolution in a demo. If it does, he's telling the truth, and we know the truth about the Rev.
     
  4. DavidLeblond macrumors 68020

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    They're just now adding pressure sensitivity... you mean beating the hell out of the A button on the NES didn't make Mario jump higher?

    Well I'll be damned... ;)
     
  5. cubist macrumors 68020

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    And that 3D stuff is old hat. I played 3D games using shutter glasses on the Atari ST back in the 80s.
     
  6. kuyu thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    GFLPraxis, what forum are those posts from??? Cool insights, to say the least.
     
  7. GFLPraxis macrumors 604

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    Heh, I don't think he means the buttons, the PS2 already has pressure sensitivity (pushing the X button down harder makes you accelerate faster in GT3, for example, to a point).


    He means the grips of the controller I believe. So you could squeeze the controller to accelerate and relax to decelerate. Cool idea.
     
  8. GFLPraxis macrumors 604

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    I'm not actually sure, someone else passed them to me. I'll ask and give you the answer when he responds.
     
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    This could be true, as I did research into autostereoscopic displays last year for my masters disertation, and our lecturer said Sharps biggest customer for their displays was.....Nintendo. Saying that, i hope it's not true. The screen are terrible unless you are correct distance and angle, plus they hurt your eyes very quickly. This will be made worse with moving images in games where you are concentrating hard. Plus nintendos biggest market iskids, and with their eyes still developing, the 3d displays could possibly damage their eyes. Unless there has been a lot of progress in the last few months then nintendo could be in for a lot of lawsuits. Plus the costs are very expensive at the moment.
     
  11. GFLPraxis macrumors 604

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    I'm really starting to think the one I posted (the guy who said Nintendo is NOT using stereoscopic 3D because they are not stupid, reveals some info and claims to be working for a company developing a Rev game) is on the mark.

    Something I forgot to mention! THE GUY WHOS POST I QUOTED ABOVE:
    He claims to work for Sega.


    Some of the things he claimed are that Nintendo are working on a Halo-killer FPS, and that he was at GDC with the devs and can confirm that EA and Midway and Sega (his company) received dev kits after that and that Capcom and Namco are sold on the Revolution, and even SquareSoft is making a game.

    He also stated that a Wave Race game for Revolution is under production and should appear at E3 2005.

    Shortly afterward, this French article appeared. Note the bold:

    So note the bolds.

    EA, Midway, Namco, Capcom, Sega, and Square (ALL the companies he listed) are making Revolution games.

    There is an FPS in works from Retro for Nintendo

    There is a Wave Race game.

    Practically confirms everything the guy said, eh?
     
  12. agreenster macrumors 68000

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    Glad Im going to E3--should be the talk of the show

    (next to Shrek Super Slam, that is...)

    :cool:
     
  13. GFLPraxis macrumors 604

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    I hate you...
     
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    I hope they don't use this 3D stuff... I have no depth vision, and those things give me headaches from hell.
     
  15. GFLPraxis macrumors 604

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    Okay, found it. Aries' posts are all on the comments part of the BrokenSaints blog!


    HOWEVER, they are no longer reliable. On the blog you don't register your name. After making those posts and telling the BrokenSaints guy he was wrong like he did in the first one, he basicly got attacked by trolls and BrokenSaints fanboys who started writing replies like "I made everything up!" or "The Revolution is using such and such technology!" using the same name, Aries, and it is very difficult to tell which ones are actually posted by the original poster. :(

    So only his first posts (the ones I quoted) are reliable, the other ones it is impossible to know who wrote them.
     
  16. Poff macrumors 65816

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    I'm getting more and more confident that Revolution will be the shiznit! I'll soon start saving my kroner for it.
     
  17. Sol macrumors 68000

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    Squeeze this!

    So to go faster in a racing game I would have to squeeze the controller? That sounds perverse. Things like stress balls freak me out. I would rather use a GC-controller-style shoulder button instead of something like that.

    As for the 3D, the original rumour was not about 3D displays like the LCDs available for computers; it was about R2D2 style projection.

    For me the most exciting rumour here is the one about the next console going online for free. Nintendo specialises in multiplayer games like Mario Party, Mario Cart, Mario Tennis, etc. Playing those games online would make the next console something special.

    Now what's this about a 'Halo killer'?
     
  18. takao macrumors 68040

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    i doubt prejection netc. but the rest alone: "free online" (free without your internet fess of course),gyroscoptic conrollers and perhap even head set as stadnard simply sounds awesome
    combine it with better hardware than the xbox 360 and perhaps a VGA conections and it slooks like a killer to me
     
  19. GFLPraxis macrumors 604

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    So we go from touching is good to squeezing is good. Nintendo is scaring me.

    lol, actually it sounds kinda cool. Grip it tight to accelerate, release to decelerate. Theres probably an option to use a shoulder button though, like he said all features are optional for developers.
    Thats no rumor. Well kinda sorta.
    Nintendo officially announced that DS online is free, and that the work on the DS online will be going into the Revolution online, so its a reasonable assumption that Revolution online is free. Yay! :D


    The french article made mention to an FPS being developed by Rare, possibly Metroid :D

    Online Metroid with gyroscopic control. WOW. Goodbye Halo.
     
  20. GFLPraxis macrumors 604

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    Actually it should be pointed out that VGA connection is official!

    Quoting the Revolution IGN FAQ:

    Well it might be DVI instead of VGA, we'll find out...
     
  21. GFLPraxis macrumors 604

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    Okay, I found some more of Aries' info before fifty people started posting from his name on the 28th.


    Note the paragraph on Super Smash Bros most specificly :D
     
  22. Poff macrumors 65816

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    And the halo-killer - hot controls!?! That is unbelievably cool! :eek:
    I've said it allready, but I'm starting to save up money for this. No doubt.
    If these rumours are true, and they find out who this person is, do you think he will be in trouble? :eek:

    Paper Mario Smash Bros - should be cool.

    And it seems, after all, that Super Mario 128 will not be released for the GameCube then. Maybe it makes sense to wait for the Revolution, so that it will have a very powerful launch-title..
     
  23. Sol macrumors 68000

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    Gameplay innovation not in better graphics

    I do not think that it is realistic to expect The World's Greatest Game every time a new 1st party Nintendo game is released. Mario 64 was trully revolutionary because back then 3D graphics for console games was still something new. A lot of gameplay innovations were introduced with that game, including camera control, freeroaming environments, analogue controls, etc. Since then 3D graphics engines have become more powerful but this in itself could not introduce more gameplay innovations, just make the old ones look better.

    Nintendo realised that a focus on better audio and visuals would just lead to more of the same. The next generation gameplay innovations will come from new networking and controller functionality. A free online community, like the one rumoured by this insider, could be something special in the hands of Nintendo. I have my doubts about the validity of this wireless controller that can change temperature, feel a squeeze and feature gyroscopes but I am sure that Nintendo will not dissapoint with the controller once again; has it ever?
     
  24. Poff macrumors 65816

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    Making such a controller wireless would drain battery, no? So I guess you might be right. On the other hand, gyroscopic without wireless isn't exactly the same.. I really hope it will be this way. I'd be more than happy to charge it more often to get such features.
     
  25. GFLPraxis macrumors 604

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    There's a few ways they could solve the battery life problem though.

    A built in rechargeable Lithium-Ion battery, instead of using AA's. Or better yet,Lithium-Sulfer, Oxyride, or Altair's Li-Ion. Oxyride and Li-S both have longer battery life, while Altair's Li-Ion lasts 300% longer and recharges in two minutes. Any of these would extend battery life or at least make it so we don't have to worry about buying new batteries all the time.

    I don't see where you guys are getting the "change temperature" part on the controller, I don't see that anywhere in Aries' post or the blog.


    EDIT: I see, I was searching for temperature, should have looked for "hot".
    Well heat isn't too hard to do, my PowerBook does it on its own :D
     

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